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ipcress12 wrote:

What do we know about the history of 1.e4? Was it the dominant first move going back to the mists of Indian chess or wherever? (Although if you go far enough back, as I recall, pawns couldn't move two squares on the first move.)

When did 1.d4 start catching up?

Do we have any statistics on young players who played the Colle as novices? Was their development damaged?

Rodrigo (Ruy) López de Segura

 


The above is a portrait of what Rodrigo Lopez de Segura looked like.

Rodrigo is the one which has been given the credit to the line known as the Ruy Lopez.

The line use to be named the Spanish Opening.

In fact, the line was recorded in a manuscript which came out in 1490.

A couple of years later the opening got renamed.

Ruy Lopez wrote a book in 1561 known as the Libro de la invención liberal y arte del juego del Axedrez.

From my understand which is not a lot.

The book in 1561 talked about the line.

However, people found his analysis very unclear and not as great as other people during that time.

Some people say he wrote his book more to get back at another chess player known as Pedro Damiano.

Pedro Damiano is known for a book he wrote in 1512.

Pedro Damiano is famous for his analysis.

Pedro Daminao believed the move 2...Nc6 was the best move to defend the e5 pawn.

He believed the move 2...d6 was not as great.

He than condemned the move 2...f6.

He made a refutation which is the below diagram:

Pedro Damiano claimed the move 2...f6 was inferior move to defend the e5 pawn.

He stated after 3.Nxe5 white has an advantage.

People loved his analysis on the line.

What ended up happening was because of all his work he put into showing how the move 2...f6 was bad move to defend e5.

The chess community ended up naming the line after him.

After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3  f6

The line was named the Damiano Defense.

He put alot of work into the line.

People believed Ruy Lopez came out with his book a few years later hating on the fact Damiano said the move 2...Nc6 was the best move!

lol So he played the move 3.Bb5 proving the move 2...Nc6 was terrible.

As it turns out the move 2...Nc6 is still respected today as a very fine move!

Nevertheless the chess community gave credit to Ruy Lopez for his effort I believe in the line.

Weather or not the man was trying to get back at another chess player the fact is he put some effort in the line to say the least.

Which is to say this goes as far back as 1500's

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Lastly, I would like to add a reference link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Damiano

I will quote "Pedro Damiano stated that 1.e4 and 1.d4 are the only good first moves and that 1.e4 is better. He examined the Giuoco Piano, Petrov's Defence, and the Queen's Gambit Accepted."

Now I do not know if this was published in his book in 1512.

However, it is very interesting to says the least.

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More often than not, 1) e4 players like clean development, open tactical lines and early attacking chances but are less experienced in manouvering and defence.

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This is the Ruy Lopez, Classical Variation.

If I am not mistaken the Classical Variation is thought to have been the oldest defense vs the Ruy Lopez.

Sometimes people call the Classical Variation as the (Cordel Defense)

Which raises interest in itself.

Who is Cordel?

Well Cordel was a chess player by the name of Oskar Cordel!

This game was played in 1870 and people say 1.e4 games are boring?

Are you crazy they are so cool.

Where esle can you see games played by people 300 plus years ago!

Here is a game by Albert Einstein!

Albert Einstein was playing white against Robert Oppenheimer in 1933!

Playing chess like Albert Wooot Woooot!

Albert Einstein is a genus and he could of opened with 1.d4, but he didn't.

I'm just putting it out there.

Why isn't the genus Albert Einstein playing 1.c4 or 1.d4?

MMMMHHHMMMM

"Us 1.e4 players know why!"

MMMMHHMMMMM

Why did Bobby Fischer say 1.e4 is best by test?

Bobby Fischer had an IQ of 180.

So now we have 2 genus playing 1.e4

I am starting to see a pattern emerging here.

I'm just saying!

Putting it out there!

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The Evergreen Game

was played in 1852 by Adolf Anderssen against Jean Dufresne.

 

One of those the most famous attacking games ever played!

Reference can be found below:

http://www.chess.com/chessopedia/view/evergreen-game

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Those trees aren't evergreens.

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we are talking about chess not about those trees

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its the simplest first move and leads to many attacking chances.

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shivank2005 wrote:

we are talking about chess not about those trees

LOL

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X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:

 

 
The Evergreen Game

was played in 1852 by Adolf Anderssen against Jean Dufresne.

 

 

One of those the most famous attacking games ever played!

Reference can be found below:

http://www.chess.com/chessopedia/view/evergreen-game

Why did you post those trees here?

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Harish73 wrote:

Why did you post those trees here?

Because they are beautiful like the chess game.

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X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
Harish73 wrote:

Why did you post those trees here?

Because they are beautiful like the chess game.

DIscuss about chess not trees :)

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I mean, don't they have any pictures of pine trees? Mountainsides in Idaho or most of Maine? They really weren't trying.

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Incorrect. d4 is the only correct move. e4 is wrong.

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If you want to learn a fun opening tmx3, I also recommend learning the Hippo. It's a very intimidating opening for your opponents who think you don't know what you're doing, that you're playing silly moves, then POW they don't know what has hit them. It was played against me a few times by a top player, for fun, and it drove me crazy! lol

I personally love 1.e4.

1.d4 or 1.e4 are the most popular/common openings by the grandmasters for a reason. It's the best way to gain control of the centre. Usually, whoever has centre control has the best chance of winning. Especially by those who really know chess.

If you're playing low rated players then the odds are they will blunder, and no matter how much centre control they had in the early stages, they blew it. Not so much with the experts. :) 

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DarkCrafter101 wrote:

Incorrect. d4 is the only correct move. e4 is wrong.

game explorer says that e4 is very popular

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shivank2005 wrote:
DarkCrafter101 wrote:

Incorrect. d4 is the only correct move. e4 is wrong.

game explorer says that e4 is very popular

Ah, nup. 

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then check

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both d4 and e4 are the best moves. OTHERS are just transpositions

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I also think e4 is better than d4.