As a bloke do you prefer Sicilian birds, French birds, Dutch birds or Indian birds? It's a tough call.
Early trends of Bird's opening (A02)
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Sep 25, 2018
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Strangemover wrote:
As a bloke do you prefer Sicilian birds, French birds, Dutch birds or Indian birds? It's a tough call.
Hmm ... probably Russian or, at least, Slav Bird (1. f4 c6 in chess). 
Yigor wrote:
88/118 games treated (1620-1873).
And:
The Williams Gambit 1.f4 d5 2.e4!?
The Sodium Bird 1.f4 d5 2.Na3
Admittedly the last one is mainly seen as a matter of transposition after 1. Na3 d5 as 2.f4 was number of methods used by Robert Durkin
Oct 2, 2018
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#6
BigBadHadron wrote:
Yigor wrote:
88/118 games treated (1620-1873).
And:
The Williams Gambit 1.f4 d5 2.e4!?
The Sodium Bird 1.f4 d5 2.Na3
Admittedly the last one is mainly seen as a matter of transposition after 1. Na3 d5 as 2.f4 was number of methods used by Robert Durkin
Hmm ... it didn't appear in my sample (from chessgames site) so far. 
Oct 2, 2018
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#7
118 games analyzed 
, now let's look more attentively at the most popular variations.
Oct 3, 2018
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#8
French Bird 1. f4 e6 :
- Main line 2. Nf3, 22 games
- Williams variation 2. e3, 10 games
SF9+ recommendations: 2. Nf3, b3, e3, e4, Nc3 (ev=+0.0/-0.1). 
Oct 3, 2018
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#9
I love 1.f4! It's my go-to opening. I've started learning the King's Gambit as a way to deal with 1...e5, (for example, 1.f4 e5 2.e4) since I don't like the main lines of From's Gambit.
You mentioned that you're analyzing the games... will you share all of your results when they're available?
Oct 3, 2018
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#10
Tristala wrote:
You mentioned that you're analyzing the games... will you share all of your results when they're available?
Well, analyzing might be an exaggeration. At the moment, I'm just classifying historical Bird openings.
Oct 3, 2018
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#11
Classifying? I'm not sure I understand. Like, are you organizing the games based on game result, number of moves, that sort of thing?
Sorry to be a bother - I just got excited when I saw this thread and I figured "Hey, I might learn something!"
Either way, will you share the results of your labors?
I like the Salty Bird !
1. f4 !? d5
2. Na3 ?!
Oct 3, 2018
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#13
Tristala wrote:
Classifying? I'm not sure I understand. Like, are you organizing the games based on game result, number of moves, that sort of thing?
Sorry to be a bother - I just got excited when I saw this thread and I figured "Hey, I might learn something!"
Either way, will you share the results of your labors?
U don't bother me and, sure, I'll post my results here. I don't pretend to make my own deep analysis. However, I can post engine evaluations, indicate errors and so on. 
Oct 3, 2018
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#14
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
I like the Salty Bird !
1. f4 !? d5
2. Na3 ?!
Hahaha ... right 
There are 2 strange flying creatures: Sodium Bird 2. Na3 and Ammoniac Bird 2. Nh3.
Oct 3, 2018
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#15
Tristala wrote:
Classifying? I'm not sure I understand. Like, are you organizing the games based on game result, number of moves, that sort of thing?
Actually, U see yourself what kind of analysis/classification I make: how many games were played with a given variation, what moves were made and their modern engine evaluation. Something like that.
Oct 4, 2018
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#16
Yigor wrote:
French Bird 1. f4 e6 :
- Main line 2. Nf3, 22 games
- Williams variation 2. e3, 10 games
SF9+ recommendations: 2. Nf3, b3, e3, e4, Nc3 (ev=+0.0/-0.1).
French Bird, Main line 1. f4 e6 2. Nf3 (ev=-0.1):
- Bird vs QID 2...b6, ev=+0.0, 3 games
- Franco-Dutch 2...d5, ev=-0.1, 3 games
- Franco-Sicilian 2...c5, ev=+0,0, 3 games
- Symmetrical Bird: French variation 2...f5, ev=+0.1, 3 games
- King's Fianchetto 2...g6, ev=+0.3, 1 game
- King's Knight 2...Nf6, ev=+0.0, 1 game
(75/118 games analyzed, to be continued)
I've analyzed 118 Bird's opening 1. f4 games (A02) in the period (1620-1899).
