Fools Mate

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supercheezit73

I know its childish but if ur opponent dosent watch carfully this might happen.

AMcHarg

Yes this does sometimes happen but not at any serious level.  Usually this only happens when children are playing or extreme beginners. Smile

ruylopezIII

Too random.  Opening e3 is random and rare enough.

supercheezit73

my point exactly but remeber to watch for tht opening. and u can prevent it.Cool

mowque

i used to try e3 out..

RandomPrecision

Well, ruylopez, most Scholar's/Fool's mate games probably open with e4.  I figured the diagram was mostly conceptual, since white has made two more moves than black (one move is to be expected, since white moves first - but black didn't even have enough time to move a knight forward, then back again).

supercheezit73

i made a mistac i understand but i was just trying to get a point across

u0-0-0

happens sometimes

quick game + mouse slip + distracted = fools mate

EV13

I thought that this was the fool's mate:

 

 

 

 

 

Oh well, not like someone is likely to do this anyway...

jdthompson
EV13 wrote:

I thought that this was the fool's mate


It is. The original example is the Scholar's Mate

supercheezit73

that is a differant way and its pretty neat

jdthompson
supercheezit73 wrote:

that is a differant way and its pretty neat


No. They are completely different things.

Fool's Mate

Scholar's Mate

supercheezit73

ok

Billium248

When I was teaching my daughter how to play, I kept opening up with the scholar's mate on her over and over until she realized what I was doing and started to anticipate my next move and find a way to guard against it.

Then I started opening with fool's mate over and over until she finally learned how to take advantage of it.  Now she has beaten a classmate and some random player on yahoo with it.

tiny123tim

i never knew chess was so complicated it is all very interesting though

trentthechessnut

lol the original cannot be mate in 4! it has to be mate in five.

1.e3 g6 2.Bc4 b6 3.Qf3 Bb7 4.Qf4 Bc8 5.Qxf7 mate!

lol

HowDoesTheHorseMove
EV13 wrote:

I thought that this was the fool's mate:

 

Oh well, not like someone is likely to do this anyway...


Actually, this happened to me in one of my earliest games on the site. An annotated recounting:

stanhope13

i think this is a bit pointless. everyone knows the warning signs.

Billium248

Too bad that game was too short to affect player ratings.  You should have stalled one more move and gotten some points for the win.  Of course, I'm sure you didn't know that at the time.  You were just happy to see the opportunity present itself, which it rarely does.

I had a similar experience.  Right after I found this sight, I was looking thru some games and found the Scholar's mate (had I known that's what it was called I would have just done a search for it).  I knew there was a way to checkmate in only a few moves, but I didn't know how yet.  So after I found it, I started trying it out.  In my very first game here on Chess.com, I won by Scholar's mate!!  I was so excited!!  I couldn't wait to try it again.  It's never worked since.  Undecided

HowDoesTheHorseMove
Billium248 wrote:

I had a similar experience.  Right after I found this sight, I was looking thru some games and found the Scholar's mate (had I known that's what it was called I would have just done a search for it).  I knew there was a way to checkmate in only a few moves, but I didn't know how yet.  So after I found it, I started trying it out.  In my very first game here on Chess.com, I won by Scholar's mate!!  I was so excited!!  I couldn't wait to try it again.  It's never worked since. 


The Scholar's mate and Fool's mate work on the same basic principle: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."