French vs. The Sicilian

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All following this thread should be aware that there is a "French Vs Sicilian" correspondence match going on right now:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/french-vs-sicilian-1

This is after a "French Vs Caro-Kann" correspondence match was won decisively by Team French.  There is a lot of misinformation out there on the French Defense, which is far more aggressive and tenacious than its popular reputation would suggest.

It's a great weapon for an attacking player.  As @pfren has suggested here, I play the Rubinstein against both 3. Nc3 and 3. Nd2.  The "space advantage" which the computer analyzes in white's favor is really just a ripe target, easily blockaded and attacked on the open d-file.

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It depends if you do the french defense that will be harder for the opponent but in the same way it ruins your development but the sicilian it is a really uncommon move most players don't know how to even defend against it and it also increases your chances of win and also developes your peices in a unique way the sicilian was played by Viswanathan Anand
Indian chess grandmaster against Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa
Indian chess grandmaster. Praggnanandhaa did the austian attack and Viswanathan Anand did the sicilian and at the end of the game Viswanathan Anand won so thats why I recomend doing the sicilian but one thing the sicilian can lead to many of whites traps so you better be careful in a matter of few mover you can lose your rook.
 

 

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(From my point of view)

On 1) e4 : 1)... c5 and 1)...e5 = opening for gosu = not to play except if you are gosu 

Sicilian Defense

I think it won't be very difficult to convince rational people why we shouldn't play this opening if we are not a gosu.

a) 1) e4-c5 2) d4-cxd4 3) c3-dxc3 4) Nxc3 unbearable gambit where we have the impression to undergo the whole game with quite formidable sacrifices of rook. In short, 1) e4-c5 2) d4-cxd4 3) c3-d3 can be ok

b) 1) e4-c5 2) b4 the game hasn't started and we already feel bad.  Fortunately wing gambit is little played and let's hope it's not played.

c) 1) e4-c5 2) f4 we don't play 2)...d5 and clearly we find ourselves facing a super Sicilian for White. 

d) 1) e4-c5 2) c3 it is often because of the Alapine variant that we stop playing the Sicilian. Evgeny Svechnikov wrote a book on how to win the Sicilian with the Alapine variant.

e) 1) e4-c5 2) Nf3-Nc6 3) Bb5 or 1) e4-c5 2) Nf3-d6 3) Bb5 + no comment

f) 1) e4-c5 2) Nc3-Nc6 3) g3 can be ok  but "the East-Indian attacks", o-o-o vs o-o or "timorous game", it's to be studied and I believe there are plenty of players who play Sicilian closed.

g) 1) e4-c5 2) b3 that is bonus as if it wasn't enough.

And obviously if you spend your time studying these instead of the main ones, it will be even worse because obviously the main ones are more formidable.

 

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I play both. I go for a French first and if they don't play 2.d4 then I go into a Sicilian

I find it very useful to have two repertoires when your opponent plays the Exchange Variation and you want to change things up

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Sicilian

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Petroff defence
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Ambo0o wrote:
Petroff defence

Why do people do this in every thread about an opening? Come up with some totally unconnected other opening to shout out?

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DrSpudnik wrote:
Ambo0o wrote:
Petroff defence

Why do people do this in every thread about an opening? Come up with some totally unconnected other opening to shout out?

NIMZO-INDIAN DEFENSE

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Hum...

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En français

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Sicilian is way better but requires much more study. So depending on ur time management, decide. Sicilian is way stronger, but french is still good.

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Sicilian

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I've played both... my takeaway was that sicilian positions are just better, tbh. Black just has much more play. And you don't have to play the exchange or the advanced, both of which are quite dull. I do like the Nc3 french... the positions are interesting for both colors, but you can't force that line as black.

If you're worried about theory there are tons of different sicilians, there's a bigger burden on white to know theory. Play a less common one and you'll be fine. There are even a few ways to avoid or nullify most of the anti-sicilians.

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DrSpudnik wrote:
Ambo0o wrote:
Petroff defence

Why do people do this in every thread about an opening? Come up with some totally unconnected other opening to shout out?

You should learn that this sort of bigoted unprompted arrogance doesn't actually work with most women. The type of woman this works on are guilt-ridden former sex workers, and you don't want that. Do better

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ibrust wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:
Ambo0o wrote:
Petroff defence

Why do people do this in every thread about an opening? Come up with some totally unconnected other opening to shout out?

You should learn that this sort of bigoted unprompted arrogance doesn't actually work with most women. The type of woman this works on are guilt-ridden former sex workers, and you don't want that. Do better

What the hell are you on?

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DrSpudnik wrote:
ibrust wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:
Ambo0o wrote:
Petroff defence

Why do people do this in every thread about an opening? Come up with some totally unconnected other opening to shout out?

You should learn that this sort of bigoted unprompted arrogance doesn't actually work with most women. The type of woman this works on are guilt-ridden former sex workers, and you don't want that. Do better

What the hell are you on?

Spare me - 10/10 female makes a random 2 word statement and you fly off the handle - as men we all know what the game is here. Do better parrot!

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French vs Sicilian : for which level ?

a : If it's to compete in the world championship, I think the Sicilian defense is a better choice.

b : For intermediate levels, I think the French defense is a better choice because it's easier to understand or play it.

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If you choose an e6 sicilian you can use a lot of the same lines as in French when white plays

the so called anti-sicilians, were white avoids playing d4.

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Both are good, but Sicilian is better.