Fried Liver defense

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Hello good people from chess.com. I've played a game with a friend that has just learned how to play chess, he's been playing for only a few days but is already playing nice moves. I decided to play the fried liver attack and he surprised me with 4. ...Bc5. Take a look at the game and comment if u care! Thanks ;)

 



tmkroll

That's the Traxler Gambit which is not the Fried Liver. The Fried Liver happens after d5 and Nxd5. You can Google Traxler Gambit and find out more about this line. You played the best response which is Bxf7. Taking on f7 with the Knight has been analyized to a draw, but it's super complex and Black gets a ton of play. I don't know the line well after your continuation but it seems to me your opponent blundered long before you suggest in the text. Around move 14 you're two clear pieces ahead with Queens off the board, the attack is over, and Black even has a weak advanced isolated pawn. It's a clearly won game. Around move 21 you're up 3 whole pieces and a pawn. As much as I said you can research this line, you might not waste your time until you start to meet players who've prepaired it well themselves. It's super sharp, and perhaps someone with an engine and/or more knowlege of this line will correct me but I don't think you navigated it badly with the White pieces.

X_PLAYER_J_X

After the move 4...Bc5

The best move for white is to play 5.Bxf7+

Taking with the knight is very dangerious.

White is suppose to be fine if they take with the knight with best play.

However, it is very sharp and unless you know it very well you might not find the best moves.

If your opponent knows more about the line than you. He might beat you real bad in that variation.

I think 5.Bxf7+ is one of the safest ways of playing.

After the move 5...Kf8 the 6th move for white is often the move 6.Bb3.

The reason they play this bishop move all the way back to b3 is to stop any tempo losses.

In your game you played the bishop to c4 which means when black played the move d5 it hit your bishop on c4 with tempo.

Another idea black has is to play Nd4 which would than win a tempo because it threatens the c2 pawn.

If a knight takes the c2 pawn than it will be attacking the rook in the corner as well.

So you want to bring the bishop back to b3 to defend the c2 pawn and get out of any danger.

The bishop is also defended on b3 by the pawns on c4 it is undefended.

After you take the f7 pawn with your bishop and retreat it.

Black shouldn't try to sacrifice the way he did.

Usually the Bxf2+ sacrifice is more dangerious in the 5.Nxf7 lines.

In the line you played with 5.Bxf7+ it is not recommended to sacrifice for black.

Bascially 5.Bxf7+ is a line which lets white get 1 pawn up.

The Traxler Counter Gambit is not that sound to be honest.

However, the Bxf2 idea in this line it more deadly in Nxf7 variations.

 

The reason I believe the bishop sac is really bad in this specific variation is because the knight on g5 does defend the e4 square.

In the Nxf7 variations the Bxf2+ sacrifice has an idea of following up with like a Nxe4+.

For example:


Notice how this position gets very sharp very fast!

The bishop sac in this line is more deadly because the e4 pawn is undefended the knight on g5 is on f7!

Which means black is sacrificing 1 piece but he is taking out a couple of pawns. An his pieces are flying into the battle fast.


Going back to your game now!

In this game your opponent was basically giving you free pieces.

He doesn't understand the full idea behind the Traxler Counter Gambit as of yet.

Yeah in this position your +8 or something crazy.

You are up so much material that black should resign.

However, your opponent kept playing.

The move 9.Qh5 is the key move.

However, I like the move 9.Qf3 as well.

In the game you didn't find either move.

The move 9.Nxe6+

This move is still winning for white +4.

However, it is a mistake!

It is a blunder because you could be +9!!!

Precision chess.

You want your opponent to know in there heart they never had a chance!

You should be ashamed of yourself.

You want perfect technique!

You want your opponent to look at the finishing techinque and hang it up on there wall in a picture frame to show the world what perfection and art looks like.

The move 9.Ne6+ hangs your bishop.

The bishop we should of never been there!

The moment your opponent sees you on the chess board they should be sad.

They should be shaking in fear.

Your bishop has been lost.

Was you even thinking of your bishop who won you the pawn on f7 so long ago?

+4 white is winning we could be +9.

You are giving the enemy a chance and when you give the enemy a chance they could get you!

Your opponent is reviewing this game for the next game!

He will capitalize next game if your mistakes are left unattended!

Your opponent wants revenge!

Here is the Engine Review of your game:

 

tmkroll

Shkrelis_nemisis, look it up, don't use an engine. The work has been done already for years; no need to reinvent the wheel. Xplayer, good addition here.

Conquistador

The theory has been known for years, yet people still play the line 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6.Kf1 Qe7 7.Nxh8 d5 8.exd5 Nd4 9.d6 Qxd6 10.Nf7 Qc5 when it's been proven that 10...Qe7 is a draw.

X_PLAYER_J_X

Wait a min I think you guys have confused me!

 

After the moves 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+

I thought the move 6.Kf1 has been shown to be winning for white with best play.

Or at least that is what I thought. Am I wrong?

 

The line with 6.Kxf2 from my understanding is suppose to be a draw with best play.

 

For the above reasons that is why the Traxler Counter-Gambit is not considered very good.

X_PLAYER_J_X
shkrelis_nemesis wrote:
Conquistador wrote:

The theory has been known for years, yet people still play the line 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6.Kf1 Qe7 7.Nxh8 d5 8.exd5 Nd4 9.d6 Qxd6 10.Nf7 Qc5 when it's been proven that 10...Qe7 is a draw.

Well I haven't let Komodo9.3 loose on 10...Qe7 but I'm about to.

Quick update: 11.c3 and 11.d3 look like dead ends.  But not 11.Ng5 Bg4 12.Nf3 when 12...e4 looks winning for Black.  I guess there's nothing new under the sun after all.

Dead ends?

what does that mean?

Is it a draw or does 1 side win?

pfren

9. Qf3+ wins on the spot, and it's the very first move which comes (or rather should come?) to mind. 9.Qh5, threatening mate in 1, looks equally strong.

Why do you assume your friend blundered a few times after move 22? He generously donated a couple of pieces within the first seven moves- certainly not such an easy thing to achieve...

s060039
I reckon he got it off GJ Chess Tricks