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Cystem_Phailure
Garvanko wrote:

In my experience the Kings Gambit is just plain fun, even against prepared players. Plus I love to put pressure on my opponents f6 square.


I prefer to go after the f7 square. Cool

Cystem_Phailure

DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:  The King's Gambit has been refuted for ages..

Another "it's been refuted" blurt from an expert with no games played on the site.  

TheOldReb
DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

the king's gambit has been refuted for ages..


 

                   H O G W A S H 

PrawnEatsPrawn
Reb wrote:
DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

the king's gambit has been refuted for ages..


 

                   H O G W A S H 


 

Easy now, Dafydd is just living up to his name. Pity.

PrawnEatsPrawn
DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

bob fischer published his refutation of the KG some 50 years ago.


 

1. 50 years ago!

2. Is it possible that Fischer didn't know everything about chess?

3. Fischer occasionally played the King's Gambit himself.

pathfinder416

I believe the refutation has been refuted. Time marches on, and the Second Law of Thermodynamics eventually brings every flawed thing to ground.

Benkobaby

No guesses as to what I like to play Wink. I'm also a huge fan of the Marshall Attack in the Ruy but as with Benko, your opponent has to be willing to play into it - which means you have to be prepared to face an opponent unwilling to snap up your proffered morsel (i.e the Anti-Marshall lines of the Ruy and the gambit declined and pawn return variations of the Benko). I think gambitting a pawn for initiative shows, at the very least, a proper fighting spirit - although I think only a fool would suggest that all gambits are created equal. Some are highly speculative if not outright unsound.

A well prepared and knowledgeable opponent is going to give any gambitteer at least a modicum of grief. As an example, the Epishin variation of the Benko gambit has always proved a major headache for me.

pathfinder416
DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

both are refuted


How, exactly? Enlighten us.

Benkobaby
DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

both are refuted


Are you referring to the Benko and the Ruy/Marshall Attack?

Do tell?! - thrill us with your clearly evident chess acumen!Tongue out

chessisme1123

LOL at the "death gambit" ... How many wish their opponent would play like that :P ... and how about when he said he used to play the king's gambit when he was a " beginner" :P his rating is hardly over 1000 .. I consider myself a begginner ... and I am! ... That was funny stuff though

Benkobaby
DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

i do not give free lessons. pm me if you want the refutations,we'll surely agree upon a fee.


Just as I thought - another coward with nothing to say. Your writing "style" (or lack thereof) seems vaguely familiar. I wonder what other handles you've used in the past? The "i do not give free lessons" excuse seems to have been used many times in the past ....

Cystem_Phailure
DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

i do not give free lessons. pm me if you want the refutations,we'll surely agree upon a fee.


Yes, I'm sure your message box will be full of messages from people willing to give you money after seeing the crap you're spouting. Cool

Benkobaby

@ Cystem - Messages no doubt from the top players in the world as many of them continue to play the Benko and perhaps even more still play the Ruy/Marshall.Wink

Benkobaby

I think the opponent a gambitteer fears most is the patient, calm, and steady player. GM Neil McDonald touched on this in his book "The Benko Gambit Revealed". He was writing about a particular line of the Benko (the Epishin variation) but I think it can be applied to many if not all gambits:

"The fianchetto [Epishin] variation doesn't win by force for White, but at the highest echelons of chess it has been scoring well. This is because players of that level know how to play perfect defensive chess as White for 20 or so moves (the word grovel comes to mind for some reason) and then suddenly switch to scintillating attacking play. Very few players can copy this style of play without going wrong at some point - they will either get the balance of attacking and defensive moves wrong, or lose control by making tactical oversights or strategical errors. Therefore, unless you are playing Kramnik tomorrow at Linares you don't have to be afraid of ..... [playing the Benko]."

batgirl

It's reportedly reputed
The King's Gambit's been refuted
I won't call them lies
But I feel its demise
Has been terribly miscomputed.

chessisme1123

nice rhyme :D 

chessisme1123

Benkobaby.. I had a fealing your rating was high by your intelligent comments... I was wondering if you wanted to play me in a turn-based game. I am sending the challenge now. 

Benkobaby

Will do - I'll send you a challenge. My rating is inflated because I've fattened myself on thematic tourneys and time outs - don't be impressed. It was too easy to score points on a system you know back to front. Still - happy to take on all those that think the Benko has a "refutation" Cool

chessisme1123

I never said that lol. I believe anyone over 2000 :D 

Benkobaby

I never said you did mate ?! Not sure what it is you're talking about? (I'm into my 3rd Martini so I may be confused)