King's Indian Vs. Nimzo Indian

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agisdon

Which is better? Please leave your suggestions below!

agisdon

I would like to see which one has more preference on this thread

Merovwig

You are asking what is the best between two perfectly fine openings on the same side. There is just no point.

poucin

The better is the one which is comfortable for u to play.

Sred

KID has often been played by Kasparov, Nimzo-Indian has been played by Karpov. This could be a hint.

X_PLAYER_J_X

I have always liked the KID over the NID.

However, that is just me.

asithajayasinghe

agisdon wrote:

Which is better? Please leave your suggestions below!

agisdon wrote: Which is better? Please leave your suggestions below!

chesster3145

Sred wrote:

KID has often been played by Kasparov, Nimzo-Indian has been played by Karpov. This could be a hint.

Not really. You forgot to mention that the Nimzo-Indian has been played by every WC since Capablanca. In other words, the Nimzo has been respected practically from the beginning.

indiaonsicily

It depends on your style of play. Nimzo Indian is for positional players and KID is for attacking players. Although KID has more theory attached to it, I still prefer the KID

rskeeran
Which is the most useful opening move ?
agisdon

I personally like the KID

agisdon

I still find one thing interesting though. Most GMs at the top level don't play the KID except for 1 or 2 like Kasparov. Why is this the case? Is there a refutation?

Robert_New_Alekhine

In many KID positions, the engine shows +2 when in reality black is better.

This discussion is pointless though. 

ChessOath
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

In many KID positions, the engine shows +2 when in reality black is better.

Really? If ridiculous things like this are true then why does everybody always say that computers are now better than the top GMs? Wouldn't it be really easy for Carlsen to destroy a chess engine in a match with intelligent preperation/play?

Robert_New_Alekhine
ChessOath wrote:
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

In many KID positions, the engine shows +2 when in reality black is better.

Really? If ridiculous things like this are true then why does everybody always say that computers are now better than the top GMs? Wouldn't it be really easy for Carlsen to destroy a chess engine in a match with intelligent preperation/play?

Quoting Nakamura here.

ChessOath

Well, he should know what he's talking about.

Robert_New_Alekhine

Can't find the quote. I know he said it after this brilliant game, however:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1800188

ipcress12

Judging by the efforts of some White 1.d4 players to avoid the Nimzo and current database statistics favoring the Nimzo (CB w/ 2014 DB gives White 55.9% over 51.0% for KID vs Nimzo) one could say the Nimzo is a stronger defense than the KID.

However, so much depends on the players and circumstances involved, I would avoid categorical claims.

Furthermore, I doubt these issues have much bearing on class play. Speaking for myself, I have found it hard to get a Nimzo, since my White 1,d4 opponents often head off into London/Tromp/Veresov/Colle lines. Which I find annoying, so I switched to the Dutch since it synergizes with the French.

Maybe when I get stronger and face opponents who use more mainline openings, I'll return to the Nimzo. I liked what I saw when I studied it.

DoctorStrange

You play whatever you want. Agreed with IM poucin.

Ziggy_Zugzwang

If I knew my opponent was an "Annoying d Pawn" player I would pick the KID. If he is a man and comes out fights with 1d & c4 the Nimzo - or at least try to.... The problem is actually knowing...

Perhaps OTB where the future opponents previous games are available for scrutiny, you can choose at that point.