King's Indian Vs. Nimzo Indian

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Which is better? Please leave your suggestions below!

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I would like to see which one has more preference on this thread

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You are asking what is the best between two perfectly fine openings on the same side. There is just no point.

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The better is the one which is comfortable for u to play.

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KID has often been played by Kasparov, Nimzo-Indian has been played by Karpov. This could be a hint.

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I have always liked the KID over the NID.

However, that is just me.

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agisdon wrote:

Which is better? Please leave your suggestions below!

agisdon wrote: Which is better? Please leave your suggestions below!

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Sred wrote:

KID has often been played by Kasparov, Nimzo-Indian has been played by Karpov. This could be a hint.

Not really. You forgot to mention that the Nimzo-Indian has been played by every WC since Capablanca. In other words, the Nimzo has been respected practically from the beginning.

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It depends on your style of play. Nimzo Indian is for positional players and KID is for attacking players. Although KID has more theory attached to it, I still prefer the KID

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Better is stop bothering about such issues.

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Which is the most useful opening move ?
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I personally like the KID

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I still find one thing interesting though. Most GMs at the top level don't play the KID except for 1 or 2 like Kasparov. Why is this the case? Is there a refutation?

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In many KID positions, the engine shows +2 when in reality black is better.

This discussion is pointless though. 

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Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

In many KID positions, the engine shows +2 when in reality black is better.

Really? If ridiculous things like this are true then why does everybody always say that computers are now better than the top GMs? Wouldn't it be really easy for Carlsen to destroy a chess engine in a match with intelligent preperation/play?

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ChessOath wrote:
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

In many KID positions, the engine shows +2 when in reality black is better.

Really? If ridiculous things like this are true then why does everybody always say that computers are now better than the top GMs? Wouldn't it be really easy for Carlsen to destroy a chess engine in a match with intelligent preperation/play?

Quoting Nakamura here.

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Well, he should know what he's talking about.

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Can't find the quote. I know he said it after this brilliant game, however:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1800188

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Judging by the efforts of some White 1.d4 players to avoid the Nimzo and current database statistics favoring the Nimzo (CB w/ 2014 DB gives White 55.9% over 51.0% for KID vs Nimzo) one could say the Nimzo is a stronger defense than the KID.

However, so much depends on the players and circumstances involved, I would avoid categorical claims.

Furthermore, I doubt these issues have much bearing on class play. Speaking for myself, I have found it hard to get a Nimzo, since my White 1,d4 opponents often head off into London/Tromp/Veresov/Colle lines. Which I find annoying, so I switched to the Dutch since it synergizes with the French.

Maybe when I get stronger and face opponents who use more mainline openings, I'll return to the Nimzo. I liked what I saw when I studied it.

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You play whatever you want. Agreed with IM poucin.