Looking for an attacking opening

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TomDickson

Hi, I've just got

bored of my opening I play as white its a sort of catalan/ kings indian attack sort of set up.

 

 

 

 

As a result im looking for a less strategic opening, and one which lets me have more of an attack straight away. 

Im considering the veresov,

And im also considering this variation of english: 
So, what attacking openings do other people play? I would rather not get into 1.e4 and the world of theoretical pain that is the sicilian. 
pauix

1.e4 is the way to go. If possible, followed by 1...e5 2.f4!

nxavar

You can't say "I want an attacking opening" but "I don't want theoretical pain". Attacking openings means sharp openings. Sharp openings means lots of theory and the resulting pain to learn it. Otherwise you might find yourself being the defender in the "attacking opening".

TomDickson

Perhaps I should have said "tactical" instead of attacking. And positional instead of strategic.

I play loads of games where I get a positional advantage, but I can't convert them to wins. Last tournament I played in, I won all my games as black using either the Caro Kann or the Kings Indian and I lost or drew my games as white. So somthing is going wrong with my game as white, whether it be the opening, or my lack of attack (or whatever.) So I'm going to look at new openings for white, as somthing's going wrong there. 

I guess what I wanted was some sort of quick fix opening which was attacking (or tactical) yet didnt require theory. I now realise that this sort of thing doesn't exist.

Ok, so if I wanted to play 1e4! Is Kings Gambit the way to go? I know it's been refuted, but I see from TWIC that there are a fair few games still being played with it, so there must still be life left in it. 

Also Danish Gambit, yes or no?

bresando

Tactical equally translates into theoretical. Tactics=forced variations=theory grows quickly.

But i don't think you should blame the opening or devote much time to opening preparation at your level. 1.e4 is the way to go, with some strategically simple sistems like the italian game (played in the classical way aiming for c3-d4) or the danish. You should just focus on general principles (fast development and so on) rather than theory.

The KG is NOT refuted at all and will likely never be. But in my view W position is not nearly as straightforward to play as in the danish (or related gambits), and you really need some theory to avoid an early massacre.

Chuckychess

I would like to recommend the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit as an effective and entertaining opening.

BDG Accepted:  1 d4 d5  2 e4 de  3 Nc3 Nf6  4 f3 ef  5 Nf3 (or Qf3).

BDG setup against the Dutch Defense (Staunton Gambit):  1 d4 f5  2 e4 fe  3 Nc3 Nf6 (3...d5?! 4 Qh5!)  4 f3 ef  5 Nf3.

BDG setup against the French Defense:  1 d4 e6  2 e4 d5  3 Nc3 Bb4  4 a3 Bc3  5 bc de  6 f3 ef  7 Nf3.

BDG setup against the Caro-Kann Defense (Fantasy Variation):  1 d4 d5  2 e4 c6  3 f3 de  4 Nc3 ef  5 Nf3

BDG-like setup against the King's Indian Defense (Samisch Variation):  1 d4 Nf6  2 f3 g6 (2...d5  3 e4 de  4 Nc3 is a BDG by transpositon) 3 e4.

These variations are fun to play (at least to me).  :)

pauix
Chuckychess wrote:

I would like to recommend the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit as an effective and entertaining opening.

BDG Accepted:  1 d4 d5  2 e4 de  3 Nc3 Nf6  4 f3 ef  5 Nf3 (or Qf3).

BDG setup against the Dutch Defense (Staunton Gambit):  1 d4 f5  2 e4 fe  3 Nc3 Nf6 (3...d5?! 4 Qh5!)  4 f3 ef  5 Nf3.

BDG setup against the French Defense:  1 d4 e6  2 e4 d5  3 Nc3 Bb4  4 a3 Bc3  5 bc de  6 f3 ef  7 Nf3.

BDG setup against the Caro-Kann Defense (Fantasy Variation):  1 d4 d5  2 e4 c6  3 f3 de  4 Nc3 ef  5 Nf3

BDG-like setup against the King's Indian Defense (Samisch Variation):  1 d4 Nf6  2 f3 g6 (2...d5  3 e4 de  4 Nc3 is a BDG by transpositon) 3 e4.

These variations are fun to play (at least to me).  :)


Ah, the Blackmar-Diemer... you can easily get into the French or the Caro-Kann, which is quite a problem... oh, and 1...d4 tends to be answered with 1...Nf6, not with 1...d5, at least I tend to see more the Knight move.

gwnn

Try 1 f4, imo. If black replies 1 .. e5, play 2 e4 and don't defend the From's gambit. It is not really sound but you need some patience and memorisation.

bresando

I would say no Blackmar-Diemer because an 1.e4 repertoire can be easily upgraded, while the BDG can suddently become not good enogh if you improve past 1800-2000 elo. Also B has several ways to seek an ealy queenless middlegame,and after accepting the pawn tons of possible defensive setups. You can play the BDG with some bite only after studying quite a lot of lines.

phoenix214

Well BDG can be good for attacking, and the only problem is the french, you can actually trick the Unavare caro player into your gambit :)

ChrisWainscott
Play 1. e4 and don't sweat stuff like the sicilian. Just learn an anti-sicilian if you want to avoid theory. I have spent years playing the 2. c3 sicilian and it's plenty sound and with less theory to learn.
bresando

yes black has been tricked into a BDG...or is W who has been tricked into the strong ziegler defenseWink? Seriously speaking for a weak player like me the BDG accepted is a frightening opening but it must be said that things are sharp only if black wants. There are several ways for B to get a playable game without complications (for example i have recently tried the unusual 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 Nd7!? and if 5.fxe4 then e5 6.dxe5 Nxe5 7.Qxd8 Kxd8 with an = queenless middlegame).

Elona

1 e4 is my favoruite attack opening.

Quasimorphy

If you're thinking about going the gambit route, you might want to consider getting Gambiteer I by Nigel Davies.  It's an e4 repertoire book that features gambits(it's not all gambits but Davies makes an effort to keep things active for white.)  Danish Gambit against e5.  Wing gambits against the Sicilian and French. Fantasy Variation against the Caro-Kann.  It also includes the Alekhine, Pirc, Scandinavian, Nimzovich, and a few others.  It doesn't go into great depth, but it's pretty convenient.

pauix
Quasimorphy wrote:

If you're thinking about going the gambit route, you might want to consider getting Gambiteer I by Nigel Davies.  It's an e4 repertoire book that features gambits(it's not all gambits but Davies makes an effort to keep things active for white.)  Danish Gambit against e5.  Wing gambits against the Sicilian and French. Fantasy Variation against the Caro-Kann.  It also includes the Alekhine, Pirc, Scandinavian, Nimzovich, and a few others.  It doesn't go into great depth, but it's pretty convenient.


This book looks awesome. Being an e4 player and a Gambiteer, I think this book will start my chess library!

bresando

I own Gambiteer II (black repertoire) and i confirm it's a rather inspiring work. Only problem is that the author tends to exaggerate "a bit" the merits of the proposed variations. While reading volume II you might easily got convinced that the somewhat dubious spanish opening is under serious pressure after 3...f5!! Laughing  But it still remains a very nice book.

Elona

My favourie attack opening is the Vienna gambit.

nxavar

It might sound odd but the Queen's Gabmit Declined is an attacking opening too, if you know some typical ideas. It does call for a certain amount of theory though to use it well. I find it very easy to build attacks as white using this opening. White claims full control over the center which is a little provocative. There is a number of pawn advances to look out for which makes this opening particularly intresting to me.

segway123

Allow me to suggest the evans gambit, grand prix attack, against the french stick with the kings indian attack. 

Prof_Moriarty

I used to be in the exact same situation.  I could get a really decent position against stronger players but was unable to get the win.  I also played KID, KIA, NI and opened with 1.d4 all the time.

 

I got past my chess plateau by adding gambits to my reperatoire and learning the longer sharper lines (like the Sicilian Rauzer Attack and French Winawer Poisened Pawn, etc).

 

King's Gambit, Smith-Morra Gambit, Evan's Gambit, Max Lange Attack, From Gambit, Scotch Gambit, Ruy Lopez Marshall Attack- just pick a few and learn to play them.

I still enjoy playing those positional games, but I know how to attack when the game eventually opens up.