My own Opening

I was taught this opening as the opening when i first learnt chess.

Could people plz watch & tell me about any weaknesess/ variations, as it isn't always that practicle in games.

I am white. black is just a mirror.

There are a lot of holes.

e5xbf4?

Are you really serious?

Knight56 wrote:

There are a lot of holes.

e5xbf4?

 I only used black as a mirror, not as an actual game.

Qqwerty7 wrote:

Knight56 wrote:

There are a lot of holes.

e5xbf4?

 I only used black as a mirror, not as an actual game.

 That's why it's a worthless question, there's no point considering an opening with only one side.

Forget about trying to use your own opening, hundreds of years of theory have already narrowed down the best lines of the best openings.  Learn one of those.

If your opponent let you have this kind of structure, it means he is very nice. Actually, your structure is good, but normally black will force you to modify it

(example : e4 e5 and playing d4 won't be so easy)

 That's why it's a worthless question, there's no point considering an opening with only one side.

Forget about trying to use your own opening, hundreds of years of theory have already narrowed down the best lines of the best openings.  Learn one of those.

Not true at all...  The King's Indian Attack is a system which practically disregards the oponents moves (to an extent) and focuses on setting up a solid position from which you can counter.

Qwerty, I recently created a forum on a very similar topic and a few people have said some interesting things so you might wanna check it out:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-classic-setup

I agree with bronze.  There's also:

broze wrote:

 That's why it's a worthless question, there's no point considering an opening with only one side.

Forget about trying to use your own opening, hundreds of years of theory have already narrowed down the best lines of the best openings.  Learn one of those.

Not true at all...  The King's Indian Attack is a system which practically disregards the oponents moves (to an extent) and focuses on setting up a solid position from which you can counter.

Qwerty, I recently created a forum on a very similar topic and a few people have said some interesting things so you might wanna check it out:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-classic-setup

 It's an opening where all the possible opposing moves have been carefully considered many thousands of times leading to the conclusion that it can be played regardless of what the opponent does.  That's not the same as disregarding the opponent's moves, the consideration of them is underlying the theory of the opening even if you choose not learn it.

What the poster here has done is pulled one out of a hat with an assumption instead of a conclusion.

I understand what your saying I was showed the same opening by a very good coach all of whites moves are what he would ideally like to play and the set up he should try to get. obviously black won't allow this set up but there is a alot of opening theory based on trying to get your pieces in this position with out giving up material.

I think the answer you're looking for is this:

At many points in this opening black will make a move to which you have to respond. You're best bet is to understand that this opening in a big way is a fantasy.  We all wish that our opponent would allow us such excellent development up to a point.  I'm not even sure what you're strategy might be if you achieved this position because it's such an unlikely scenario.  In my opinion it's best for you to learn two or three openings for black and white that are more practical and have well documented success and variations.  The openings most similar (somebody more educated than I can probably add to this list) to yours include:

The Italian Game (Guioco Piano) opening

The Spanish Game (Ruy Lopez) opening

The Philador Defense

I think the Scotch and King's Indian can also achieve somewhat similar positions for white.  My recommendation is to learn the first four moves for both sides for Italian and Spanish games.  Then just focus on tactics and endgame for a while.  Once again it's just my opinion and I'm no expert.  You can also check out this website to learn basic and intermediate strategies

http://www.chesskids.com/lessons04.shtml

you may want to skip ahead to some opening lessons.  You can also challenge me to an unrated game and I'll try to walk you through some stuff.

Anthony

Good answer Anthony.

The locations you have your pieces in are ideal for controlling the center, developing attacks, and defending.  In practice we rarely get even close to that many pieces in ideal squares. Use it as a rule of thumb while learning. If you don't know what to do, move one of those pieces to one of those squares.

What do you do after 1. e4 e5 2. d4 ed?

To achieve the most similar position with decent chances I would think 1. e4, e5 2. Nf3,e5 3.d4

If 3.....exd4 then Nxd4 if not just continue developing.  This is what I would do anyway but I'm no expert.  I think 3.d4 is tough to support.  I like to play c3 before d4.  Check out Ruy Lopez and Giuoco Piano to see why...

Anthony

Wrong, it's a well-known system that can take advantage of a passive opening by black.

           H O G W A S H

 You screwed up the quotes a little, presumbly you are referring to the King's Indian which is indeed a well-known opening that can take advantage of a passive opening by black, which appears unconnected to the 'wrong' you started your sentence with.  Try rereading what I wrote.

Sorry if I was unclear.  I was referring to the OP's system here, it is often played when black plays a passive opening and is a good way to develop your pieces and take hold of the center.  Though as NMTonyDal points out in my similar thread a bishop on d3/e3 is useful.  The only real chance where you could use it in a game would be after a Pirc or a Modern defence and obviously you'd have to regulate the move order.  I admit the OP's "mirror" diagram was a bit confusing.

Reb, what exactly about the topic is hogwash, I am interested in a more experienced player's opinion.

That, I suspect, is the hogwash.  If it were a well known system, you would be able to name it.  The King's Indian can be reached by a wide range of moves, but the point, the reason it can be referred to as a system, is that it can actually be reached.  Can you point to a single game ever where this 'system' was played?

Wow