New move in the Caro-Kann. Almost a novelty.

That's just a mainline Blackmar-Diemer gambit, where white stands badly.

Well, phren? I haven't downloaded it, but I would like for you to respond to blumzovich's statement that there are 13 games, perhaps not many more than this in the database. Perhaps you thought Qb3 was the novelty, rather actually, e5 is the "close to call novelty" 

Yes, misunderstood by the first diagram that you were calling 7.Qb3 "a novelty".

7...e5 is certainly interesting, although it transforms a fairly standard structure to a random one, where memorization is required.

Estragen I have played hite with the variation of 4. d4 and 5. c3

Black has a good line against this and that is to play his queen to c7 before White can play Bf5.  This leaves that bishop with not a good place to land and actually gives Black an advantage.

Can you demonstrate this advantage?

Never in a million years would you see this "novelty" on my board.  5...Nf6 isn't good.  Black should play 5...Qc7.  Problem solved!

After 6.Nge2 (preparing 7.Bf4), Black has 6...Bg4 7.f3 and now a choice of 7...Bh5 8.Bf4 Qd7 and Black's fine or 7...Bd7 8.Bf4 e5 and again Black's fine!

Im fairly sure I have the line that completely refutes the latavian gambit.

I like how you state a line of the Caro-Kann that has nothing really to do with the OP BetterOffSingle. I encourage you to stay relevant!

I do think you have to consult a specialist. Your lack of self-confidence (which is apparent in all your comments) is alarming.

I do not see anything special from the Caro-Kann Fantasy variation.

BettorOffSingle what do you do against this continuation.

I like playing it as black in these continuations.

3...Qb6 is a good move if followed by the plan of ...e5:

4.Nc3 (Ivanchuk's 4.a3 resulted in a brilliant game, but it's rather a mediocre solution, while Nepo's 4.a4!? is interesting, but not particularly threatening) 4...dxe4 5.fxe4 e5 6.dxe5 and now Bezgodov, who wrote a whole book on the variation full of lengthy analyses, shockingly fails to make even a mention to Black's strongest move 6...Be6!

I believe e6 is a bad move. I think e5 is the best move.

I have tryed 2 different variations. I enjoy playing both ways.I believe 1 variation is slightly stronger than the other. However, I still think black has nice chances.

The first continuation I will show will be the one. I think is the strongest. I believe black gets equal and/or very small edge. Positionally black is just crushing the dark squares.

The second continuation I will show is a very nice off beat side line. I think the above diagram is the best continuation. I would label this continuation as second best. However, I believe white has to be very careful in this line.

I believe in this position black has a few options of playing it out as well.

Usually whites follow up here is 6.Na4

Usually black responses with 6...Bf2+.

Believe it or not I have mated someone in this line lol here. They obviously didn't realize the danger. They played the wrong king move and got mated in 7 moves lol. In the below diagram.

It has been a while since I did the analysis on this line. However, if my memory serves me right I believe after 7.Ke2 which is the correct king move. Black often plays 7...Qd4 offering a queen trade. White often does trade queens in that position and the position becomes some what equal. I haven't checked it in a while but I believe the position was around equal.

Another interesting move is 7...Qa6+ and you take the knight and they take your bishop. That line gives white a slight advantage though. However, It can be a very interesting way of throwing people off. It also keeps the queens on the board.

I rememeber these lines becuase I looked at them after seeing Ivanchuk vs Jobava game.

Jobava was blacked and played 3...Qb6 which I thought was the coolest move ever. In that game Ivanchuk played 4.a3

I mean Ivanchuk is a very strong SGM way above my level. He is also a very good defensive player. However, After seeing that move 4.a3 by him I said to myself. No way Jose!

If his instincts were telling him 4.a3 is the best move in that position than 3...Qb6 has to be the killer move.

Dear X_PLAYER_J_X,

disputing Chucky's moves requires you being a very strong player- something that clearly does not apply in your case.

Either back up your mumbojumbo with some concrete analysis, or stop the comedy.

Understanding and knowing chess opening positions from move 10 for most of your repetoire isn't such a bad goal. It helps a lot whether you like theory or not (I dont like it, but thats how the game is)

Everything I said in the first half of post #42 is accurate. Those variations are concrete and are considered very good. The part below which is the part you are talking about. Is my opinion on Ivanchuks and Jobava game.

I rememeber these lines becuase I looked at them after seeing Ivanchuk vs Jobava game.

Jobava was blacked and played 3...Qb6 which I thought was the coolest move ever. In that game Ivanchuk played 4.a3

I mean Ivanchuk is a very strong SGM way above my level. He is also a very good defensive player. However, After seeing that move 4.a3 by him I said to myself. No way Jose!

If his instincts were telling him 4.a3 is the best move in that position than 3...Qb6 has to be the killer move.

I don't need to back up an opinion on there game?

If you are going to push me into saying a move I might play against it. Well than I believe I would play the move e5. However, the move dxe4 is very very tempting as well.

I believe the move 4.a3 is non-aggressive. I feel it doesn't develop a piece and it is whites 4th pawn move in the opening.

So my intention would be to attack the center.

Now in this position here I rememeber Jobava played 4...e5. I liked this move by Jobava. Ivanchuk responded with 5.exd5. At this point I didn't like Jobava response. He played 5...Nf6. I believe he had an idea of sacrificing it. In the game he did. So My guess is he came up with that idea once he played this move.I didn't like that idea.

So in the above position you can see the 2 moves which have been tryed before. I liked another move though. Instead of the above moves check out the below diagram move.

Yes I liked this move. I did not engine check this move. However, I feel its good.

• First I believe this move gives white extreme pressure. I am threating to win the d5 pawn.

I believe white has some problems here. What exactly can white do in this position.

I mean white has several candiate moves here. I don't like none of them for white.

6.Nc3

6.Qe2

6.Bd3

6.dxc6

What do you think is best?

I will give an example of one:

Lets say white plays for agruement sake 6.Qxd4 (A queen trade).

Now this is just 1 move. I am not saying this is whites best move. Just given example.

Black respones with 6...exd4

At this point I like blacks position. I can't give alot of reasons why I like it.

Simply because white hasn't moved yet. So the reasons might change depending on whites move.

I wish I could give a specific reason but I can't because white hasn't played move yet and my reason for liking black might change.

For example if white plays a random move like 7.Bd3  than as black I would play 7...cxd5. I would love black position there because I'm up 1 pawn. Making white prove his compensation for the loss. Which I am more than happy to do specially since I have the black pieces.

Another example if white plays 7.dxc6 than as black I would play 7...Nxc6. I would love black position there because blacks head in development.Yes I would have isolated D-pawn. However, both my rooks would get play on the E and C file.

However, these lines are just random jibberish because I don't know of anyone who has tryed the move 5...Qxd4. I feel its a very promising move. It is tough to say how people would respond to the move when the move has not been seen a lot.

X Player

Yes, in general non developing moves aren't great. But in strange openings like this, your mere feeling about things, especially as a class player, just don't cut it for really evaluating the position. Sometimes specific tactical or positional nuances have to be highlighted first, even if this involves moves that, in general, wouldn't seem right.

X Player

Well ponz that surely makes me put on my thinking cap.

I mean databases show 5.Nxe4 has been played before among Title players. So its not unheard of.

However, you believe its the better move.

I thought many high level players considered 5.fxe4 as the better move.

Now your making me wonder.

I like 6...Bf2+

I talked about that position in post #42