Ponziani Opening

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kantifields
kantifields

Brian I do not unerstand the 8. Rg1!! idea at all.

Expertise87

I have a game where my opponent played Nxf2 and got a lost position but on 7.Qd5 he played 7...Qe7! and there I am convinced White can get no more than a small edge and this may be a fine way for Black to play. He blundered several times afterwards though.

kantifields

A recent game:

ponz111

Swan Song For The Ponziani?

VC World vs Ponziani Power



Pastuszek

Thx ponz!

ponz111

Recent game

VerdeNotte  vs F Cariaman



ponz111

oh sorry, Black in the above game was F Caruana 

ponz111

Fabiano Caruana is, of course, a very strong player. If he is in some trouble after his 6th move as Black and is in very deep trouble soon after his 6th move [as Black] it is a good indication that the Ponziani can be played at very high levels.

And for any player rated 2300 or less--it can be a very good opening [if he learns some of the theory]. Smile

ponz111

The current World Champion once played the Ponziani [and won of course]

For 99% of the players--why play the Ruy Lopez which requires ten times as much learning of opening theory as to learn the Ponziani?

If Caruana cannot defend against the Ponziani--your likely opponents may also have a hard time defending against the Ponziani!?Laughing

ponz111

Here is a vote chess game ended a few months back. Easy to find the best moves in vote chess when you have 3 days for one move plus a whole team working together...

The Chess Mine was White...

Opening Ponziani  Frasier Variation  [this is the most complicated of all

Ponziani variations...]



Pastuszek
ponz111 wrote:

Here is a vote chess game ended a few months back. Easy to find the best moves in vote chess when you have 3 days for one move plus a whole team working together...

The Chess Mine was White...

Opening Ponziani  Frasier Variation  [this is the most complicated of all

Ponziani variations...]



Impossible to play like that OTB! Nevertheless a gem!

ponz111

Well, it helped that I was well versed on that opening variation. Laughing\

But you are correct, it is much easier to come up with a master piece in vote chess than it is over-the-board...

zborg

Fascinating game, with a knockout blow (and imminent resignation) in less than 35 moves.  Black apparently made a number of technical errors, but they were so subtle the vote chess people (apparently) couldn't find them.

Great Game, PONZ.  Now if only those boneheads in the "Chess is a Draw with Best Play" thread would sit up and listen to you.  Hope Springs Eternal.  happy.png

congrandolor
ponz111 wrote:

Here is a vote chess game ended a few months back. Easy to find the best moves in vote chess when you have 3 days for one move plus a whole team working together...

The Chess Mine was White...

Opening Ponziani  Frasier Variation  [this is the most complicated of all

Ponziani variations...]



Beautiful one. I think that line is too risky to play otb, but fine in mail chess.

ponz111

Smile

congrandolor

What if, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 Nf6 4.d4 Nxe4 5.d5 Bc5 6.dxc6 Bxf2+ 7.Ke2, black plays bxc6 instead of Bb6? What is white best continuation?

chadnilsen

hola

SmyslovFan
congrandolor wrote:

What if, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 Nf6 4.d4 Nxe4 5.d5 Bc5 6.dxc6 Bxf2+ 7.Ke2, black plays bxc6 instead of Bb6? What is white best continuation?

White has a piece for three pawns. If White can get his pieces out, he will have an edge in the opening. So, 7...bc6 8.Qa4 followed by Nbd2 should give white an edge. The computer now suggests that 12...e4!  as played in Anderskewitz-Ghosh (2016) would have retained approximate equality for Black. 

congrandolor

Thanks, SmislovFan!