Question about this move in the grunfeld, Why doesn't white capture?

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Is it really that bad for white to capture? Is it so easy for black to recapture it leaving white with a horrible pawnstructure? FM Lilov doesn't even seems to considder it or tell why it's not good so I'm guessing it is bad :p. Would getting that pawn be playable?

Thanks!
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Fezzik wrote:

Yes, it really is that bad for White.

He gets:  doubled pawns, targets of his own to defend, an open position while his king still hasn't castled, and ....

Not even a pawn advantage in the long run.

If he refrains, he has a pretty solid center and simple development, which is White's dream in the Grunfeld Exchange Variation.


I figured that, but I was really wondering about if white couldnt managed to hang on to it and then in the end get a material advantage.

tonydal wrote:

I do find it a bit odd that Games Explorer has absolutely no games using 9... Bd7 (assuming I entered it all in right).  Are you sure this is the position being discussed?


Yes I am sure. Though he did say that it was an uncommon move to make. More common was Bg4.

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Fezzik wrote:

"Yes I am sure. Though he did say that it was an uncommon move to make. More common was Bg4."

 

Then you definitely have the wrong position. 9...Bd7 has occurred precisely once in my database. If you throw in 9...0-0 10.0-0, you may be back in main lines, where Black may play 10....Bg4 or 10....Bd7, 10...Qc7, or 10...cd4


Yea sorry, I forgot one move Embarassed. The castling part.
Sorry for wasting some time with that.

Fixed it in the first post.

Video itself:

http://www.chess.com/video/player/the-grunfeld-3

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Just because you're a pawn up, that doesn't always mean you have the upper hand. Here White has a strong center, and if Black captures on d4, White replaces that pawn by the one on c3, and he'll get again a strong center.

So why voluntarily giving up that strong center, and creating weaknesses on c5, c3, the long diagonal... giving Black a lot of counterplay?