So then d4 is the strongest opening move
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D4 is more fun. 'Nuf said. ;)
Oct 17, 2007
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#22
Someone should tell the computer on this site about this thread. I just tried it and it played e4 as white.
Oct 17, 2007
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#24
hptchess wrote: Also, does anyone know what the Deep Blue computer played?
Modern programs are more powerful than what Deep Blue was, and it does not matter in any case as the best computers use human made opening books, the engine kicks in when the opening book is over. So the engine only use the openings that the human told it to use.
I hate to knock you off your cloud, but making a computer think for half an hour will not find the best opening move.
To have a definitive answer as to what is the best opening move, you would have to solve chess. This would take a computer a billion times more powerful than your computer a billion-times-a-billion years (or something ridiculous like that).
Oct 17, 2007
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#26
Deep Blue played e4, and it caused GM Joel Benjamin, who helped with the programming, to switch to e4 openings.
A fairly strong player I know descibed openings to me this way:
When you play e4 and get an advantage, it's a so-so advantage. BUT, when you play d4 and get an advantage, it is usually a BIG advantage. Of course, this was his opinion.
i usually play d4 to most of my games as white. the most effective defense for me in d4 opening is kings indian and dutch. when opponent played e4 (anxiety is high to me when he played this) i reply with eithe c5 or e5.
It seems like there has been a trend towards d4 for a while. It's because people fear the sicilian boogey man (among other things...). I still prefer 1.e4 though. It leads to a tactically interesting game more quickly, and opens diagonals to let out both my queen AND a bishop in a single move.
Oct 17, 2007
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#29
spokebloke wrote: It seems like there has been a trend towards d4 for a while. It's because people fear the sicilian boogey man (among other things...). I still prefer 1.e4 though. It leads to a tactically interesting game more quickly, and opens diagonals to let out both my queen AND a bishop in a single move.
Wow, this is crazy, I was looking on the web informations about the origin of the boogey man, and then I click chess.com link, come to this thread, the first thing I read is this. That's scarier than the boogey man...
The idea that e4 must be the strongest move because why else would it be the favorite of Grand Masters is an Aristotelian argument: A simple appeal to authority rather than to the merits of the discussion.
Personally I like d4 openings. They are wild, brassy, in-your-face... all traits which I avoid in my daily life as a respectable person in a small, New England town.
D4 is the best, I think E4 is second best. Nf3 is quite flexible and can transpose into standard openings. Nc3 is not that bad.
Oct 19, 2007
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#32
SK-B wrote:
The idea that e4 must be the strongest move because why else would it be the favorite of Grand Masters is an Aristotelian argument: A simple appeal to authority rather than to the merits of the discussion.
An appeal to authority is not an "aristotelian argument" it's a sophism. And in that case it wouldn't be an appeal to authority either, it would be called an endoxa and a perfectly valid argument.
Personally, I dont believe there is a "best" opening. What might be best for one wont necessarily be best for others. Whats best depends a lot on ones own "style" and ofcourse on what ones opponent does handle well or doesnt handle well. ON chess assistant with over 2 million games 1Na3 scores best at 74%!! The other more popular openings dont even come close. 
Oct 19, 2007
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#34
Yeah, Reb is very correct. I think you should play the opening based on positions you are comfortable with. If you are a sharp players you might want to play a very double-edged opening or gambit openbing. While other positional players may want to play a quiet opening where you hope to outplay your opponent in a even middlegame.