The Fred Defense

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lolurspammed

The only opening that loses on move 1. Quality stuff.

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Apotek

Never knew Freddie played chess,let alone had an opening to his name..Well,what do you know...

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3. Bc4+ is much better than 3. Qh5 because it leads to a positional advantage. 3. Qh5 is dangerous for the white queen. 


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Reverse_Justice wrote:
Frankly I do not now why people are so against playing this opening, I've actually had far more success against 1.e4 with 1....f5 than any other opening, especially 1....e5. This may just be becuase I hate kings opening for black in everyway, white overall has better chances with the standard king pawn game and so many ways to easily take control of the game, with 1...f5 not only will white likely not know how to counter it, but even if they do there are so many ways to take an advantage. After 2.exf5, 2....Nf6 is the best reply. It is a good opening to try out, but it is true black will almost always lose the match if he does not know how to play the Fred Defence correctly, but when practiced this opening can be a deadly counter to 1. e4.

There are much better ways to respond to 1. e4:

1... e5, but you don't like it, so:

1... c5 this is the Sicilian defense. A very, very, very good reply to 1. e4.

1... e6 and 1... c6 are also good replies. Here's why 1... f5 sucks:





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I've actually had a win with the Mao Tse Tung attack. Possibly because it was a 3-minute game for each player. Time was crucial, and in the end, my opponent lost time, even though Anon. could have won. This opening sucks, however, in blitz games it can be very fun to play.

A win with the fred defense accepted! (I hate this opening, though.)


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Normally I don't have to worry about 1. e4 f5 because no one ever played it against me. I have, however, played it myself, and I almost always win with it, not because it's good (it's actually horrible), but because White makes plenty of mistakes.

lolurspammed

Making the worst move on the board to get out of opening theory is a really bad attitude to bs d when playing chess. Most people who play crap like this don't understand why they play it, but instead play it because their opponent probably hasn't seen it. Honestly if someone played that against me in any tournament game I would feel disrespected!

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Here's another win by me:

 
UPDATE: 22... Bxh2+ was better; 23. Kh1 Be5+ 24. Kg1 Qh2+ 25. Kf1 Bxd4.
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The king's gambit and the Latvian gambit are great, but the Fred defense/Duras gambit isn't so good, possible due to the fact that Black has not pushed a center pawn.

tmkroll

Off topic but the Latvian Gambit is also bad... not this bad, but pretty bad.

lolurspammed

The Latvian gambit is not too hard to refute on the board in a longer time control game

PhantomCapablanca

This isn't an opening. It's an instant L. 

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The Latvian gambit can draw, and it's actually not a gambit because Black will be able to get the pawn back either way.

lolurspammed

Are you sure about that?

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Okay, guys. The Latvian gambit is fine, but the fred defense sucks like hell.

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lolurspammed ha scritto:

Are you sure about that?

Do you think the Latvian Gambit loses? If so, can you find a good line?

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tmkroll ha scritto:

Off topic but the Latvian Gambit is also bad... not this bad, but pretty bad.

Nope, you probably don't see it from the right angle.

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tmkroll

I had no idea white wasn't allowed to play f3.