The Mighty Perc - What went Wrong??

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ArgoNavis
Lasker1900 wrote:

I can tell you what went wrong. By misspelling "Pirc" as "Perc" you angered the chess gods

And I'm still angry.

ThrillerFan

Well, there are multiple problems.

 

First off, you DID NOT PLAY A PIRC, and secondly, you can't spell either.  P - I - R - C, pronounced "Piertz".

 

What you played was Philidor's Defense, which is more commonly played from the 1...d6 move order now-a-days as many of the 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 lines are not very good for Black.

 

White played a very weird Anti-Hanham.  The Hanham would come via direct transposition after 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nbd7 4.Nf3 e5.  Common Anti-Hanham lines include 4.f4 or 4.g4.  The h3 move by White is cr&p.

 

The Pirc is 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6.

blueemu

You seemed to be playing for a K-side attack. If so, what do c7-c6 and Qc7 have to do with it?

Wouldn't you have gotten your K-side Pawn storm going more quickly by playing something like:

... g7-g6

... B(f8)-g7

... O-O

... N(f6)-h5 (or e8)

... f7-f5

Then continue with f5-f4, g6-g5, R(f8)-f6-g6 etc.

blueemu

Then there's the Pork Opening... but it's usually considered a bit ham-fisted.

MrFahrenKnight

this is just a punt, but i reckon h3 was deliberate to cut down book moves. force an opening from general principles. 

Master_Po
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MrFahrenKnight
blueemu wrote:

Then there's the Pork Opening... but it's usually considered a bit ham-fisted.

lol. nice to see a bit of light hearted humour on a thread.

ArgoNavis
Master_Po wrote:

It's the PIRC Defense.   Thanks for all the help.    I guess since they deleted the phrase something like "be helpful and kind", some people have just decided to tear down and 'female dog' about spelling.  The 2004 player, Thr**ller is a real AH.  Thanks anyway to MFKnight and BluEmu.  I figure it out on my own then.  

You're welcome.

blueemu

Here's a couple of concrete suggestions:

At move 5, when you played 5. ... c6, instead you could have tried one of these two plans:

Plan #1:

Since White has locked up the center completely with 5. d5, the two Bishops are of very unequal value. Your LSB on c8 is your Good Bishop, and your DSB on f8 is your Bad Bishop. For White, it's reversed: his DSB on c1 is his Good Bishop, and his LSB on f1 is his Bad Bishop. So why not play Be7, h6, N(f6) moves somewhere, say h5, then B(e7)-g5 to trade it off for the c1-Bishop. That will leave you with the superior minor piece (Good Bishop vs Bad Bishop).

Plan #2:

Forget about all that wimpy positional Good Bishop lah-tee-dah! Just attack! Play 5. ... g6 and follow it up with Bg7, O-O, Nh5 and f7-f5. Push on to f4 and play g6-g5. Then a Rook lift with R(f8)-f6-g6. That clears f6 so you can bring your Knight back to that square. Queen to e8 or f8 to back up the attack. Now everybody is ready for the g5-g4 push. Your c8-Bishop supports that push from its original square. Your a8-Rook can take a vacation... White will be mated before you get that Rook out.

ThrillerFan
Master_Po wrote:

It's the PIRC Defense; the first two moves by Black confirm that.   Thanks for all the help.    I guess since they deleted the phrase something like "be helpful and kind", some people have just decided to tear down and 'female dog' about spelling.  The 2004 player, Thr**ller is a real AH.  Thanks anyway to MFKnight and BluEmu.  I figure it out on my own then.  

 

No, the first two moves DO NOT confirm a Pirc.  That's like saying that 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 confirms a Nimzo-Indian, and then 3.Nc3 d5, which is a Queen's Gambit Declined.

 

Maybe you shouldn't be studying openings at this time since clearly you don't understand them one iota.

 

After 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6, the opening is still undetermined.  After the normal 3.Nc3, Black has a choice:

 

3...Nbd7 followed by ...e5 shortly OR 3...e5 and you are in a Philidor, NOT A PIRC!!!!

 

3...g6 and only now can you safely say that you are in a PIRC!!!!