Trompowsky against 1...e6?

Whats recommended here? Should i learn a line of the french defence? This way black cant cheat me out of lines like 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 with the 1...e6 order. Or should i transpose to queens gambit with 2.c4? Play some other sidelines against it?

Btw i also play 1.d4 d5 2.Bg5 if that is relevant

If you play 1.d4 e6

You do avoid some Anti-Dutch lines.

However, you will have to be prepared to play a French set up if your opponents respond with 2.e4

Maybe i wasnt clear, im white :)

If you like bishop moves than I suggestion the following:

Move 1.d4

Against 1...d5 2.Bf4

Against 1...Nf6 2.Bg5

Against 1...f5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bg5

Against 1...e6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bg5

Thanks i actually know of all the alternatives just curious which of them is recommended

Yeah they are all different openings though.

The London System, Torre Attack, Trompowsky Attack, Anti-Dutch lines.

In one minute bullet, play Bg5 anyway.

In OTB chess, play something else.

Simple.

1.d4 e6 2.Bg5 Qxg5? No thanks i only play sound lines even in bullet

That's the sort of attitude that will lose you bullet games, lol.

But obviously for real chess, all that doesn't matter. Play 2. Nf3 and go into a Torre next move.

Then play 3.e4 and go into a French Advance where the Be7 looks silly.

Thats just cruel Rumo !  

The Trompowsky against 1. ... e6 is terrible...perhaps you meant the Seirawan attack? Or perhaps the Torre attack?

Nf3 look for me as a very weird move

might d5 3. c4c6?!

LordofNorway,

Not certain about your surprise of Stockfish recommending d5--it transposes to the QGD. Very solid for black.

I decided to go with 1.d4 e6 2.e4 and advance variation. I think its a useful structure to know as you can get it in other openings like french, caro kann, sicilian, slav. It also makes me not need a backupline to 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5

newengland7 wrote:

The Trompowsky against 1. ... e6 is terrible...perhaps you meant the Seirawan attack? Or perhaps the Torre attack?

Yeah 1.d4 e6 2.Bg5 is suicide as i mentioned in post 10. Its nice that you try to give advice but you should have a rule of thumb to read all the other posts in the thread before expanding on the discussion :)

@Post #15

After 4.Nc3 Nf6

The position turns into the Semi-Slav

@TheDrevland

I do not know what line you play against the French Defense.

However, if you like the mainline you could try another move order which I did not mention in post #5.

Move 1.d4

 Against 1...e6 2.Nc3

If 2...d5 3.e4 The line is a tranposition to the mainline French.

If 3...Bb4  = Winawer Variation you will need to study up on what you plan to do against it.

If 3...Nf6 = Classical Variation you could try 4.Bg5

If 4...dxe4 = Burn Variation

If 4...Be7 = Normal Variation

If 4...Bb4 = MacCutcheon Variation

You will need to study up on what you plan to do against those 3 responses.

If 2...Nf6 3.e4 d5 The line is a tranposition to the mainline French/Classical Variation which I talked about above.

If 2...f5 I do no believe you will ever see this move in this position.

However, if your opponent plays it I would respond with the following.

3. e4 fxe4 4.Nxe4 Nf6 5.Bg5

I think the white position is happy here.

The advancevariation of french is e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3

Good advice--though it was post 9, not post 10.