staples13 wrote:
Literally just about anything will work against the BIrd. Terrible opening. Only morons play it
I lost to an 1800 when he played it.
What do you do against the bird opening?
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Areliae wrote:
staples13 wrote:
Literally just about anything will work against the BIrd. Terrible opening. Only morons play it
Kramnik said the same thing to Carlsen, then Magnus beat him with it. Don't be so absolutist or you won't improve.
I agree totally with you about this fool.
Win.
Oct 5, 2017
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#26
Honestly, the trick to playing the Bird is that White is only playing for a game where his pieces have some activity.
Carlsen didn't try to beat Kramnik in the opening, he tried to reach a playable middle game.
The way to beat the Bird is to develop soundly and then outplay your opponent from the resulting equal positions.
The Bird is precisely as advertised: not too scary, unless white is a better player than you to begin with!
Oct 5, 2017
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#27
Personally I like the from's gambit the most especially in blitz and bullet. Of course White has the possibility to transpose to kings gambit but here I suggest an unusual sideline with Qh4+:
Oct 6, 2017
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#28
melvinbluestone wrote:
bulletchesser wrote:
Personally I like the from's gambit the most especially in blitz and bullet. Of course White has the possibility to transpose to kings gambit but here I suggest an unusual sideline with Qh4+:
This is the drawback of the From: white can just switch to the KG with 2.e4. Of course, many players will argue that the KG and Bird's Opening are equally bad, so they won't mind seeing e4.
I love this line for black (the Keene Defense, 2...Qh4+). It's surprising more KG players aren't familiar with it (at least where I play). I guess the early queen sortie looks too amateurish and easily parried to bother researching. But it is tricky and white can easily be caught off guard with the line......
Didn't know that it is called the Keene variation (Raymond Keene?)
I discovered that idea in a chess club match between the two strongest players of our chess club.
One of them played the king's gambit and he literally fell of the chair (just kidding but his face was priceless because he couldn't believe that his strong oppoenent would play such a silly looking queen move. ). He said: "What is that?" He had never seen this move before. He lost that game. Not because of the opening but one can say that black didn't have many problems in the opening.
That's why I looked into that move a little deeper. The reason was there was our club championship and I played against a player who plays the bird but would transpose to the kings gambit when confronted with the froms gambit.
Talk to Nakamura about early Queen moves!
staples13 wrote:
Literally just about anything will work against the BIrd. Terrible opening. Only morons play it
This just in: Dr Lasker was a moron. You heard it here first.
Gil-Gandel wrote:
staples13 wrote:
Literally just about anything will work against the BIrd. Terrible opening. Only morons play it
This just in: Dr Lasker was a moron. You heard it here first.
staples13 probably has 13 staples in his brain!
I suggest Nf6 because then you can play d5 after.
there's a funny trap that black can fall into playing this opening which was discussed by Levy in Hikaru's opening tier list (for GM's)
playing 1 f4 e5 is quite demanding for black theoretically. sure you get white out of his setup as early as move one since there is no ne5 for some time to come, but you have to play razor sharp lines, and there is also the snag that you sort of have to be prepared for the king's gambit with 2 e4. i think playing d5 and g6 is more economical and works against all types of reversed dutch setups white can employ. i think it hurts white to have the extra move in a reversed dutch type position more than it helps him, since normally he does not go for tactical lines where the extra move would count, or black can sidestep that try because he will see it coming, and black can more easily adapt and choose a counter setup based on what white will do, as is known from the proper dutch with correct colors.
Literally just about anything will work against the BIrd. Terrible opening. Only morons play it
Kramnik said the same thing to Carlsen, then Magnus beat him with it. Don't be so absolutist or you won't improve.