Where can you find material on this Caro Kann Variation?

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ItsBenjaminTheChessMan

I was looking at how to play against the Botvinnik Carls in Caro Kann. I saw this line that scores really well and is recommended by @GothamChess.

I was doing some research and cannot find any real resources on the variations. Do you know any resources that covers this line?

ricorat

I’ve just used chess.coms opening database to learn it

ItsBenjaminTheChessMan

Do you think other databases are fine? I was thinking about that, but I was hoping that there was something where a human can explain the variations.

KingMonkey400

Oh, is that the refutation you were talking about?  I face that a bit, I win and lose playing against it.

Thanks,

KM400

ricorat
ChessHistoryRocks wrote:

Do you think other databases are fine? I was thinking about that, but I was hoping that there was something where a human can explain the variations.

I’m sure other databases would be good to! I haven’t been able to find a good human explanation for free though. Gotham I think talks about it in 1 of his courses but, that costs money.

papcorn1
Had a search and also couldn’t find anything. If you play move 3 bish f5 instead of c5, you’ll never have trouble finding info on all the variations.
ItsBenjaminTheChessMan

I am looking at information for white. I am an e4 player.

BM_BlunderMaster90

3. ... Bf5 is the absolute main-line

ricorat

For me 3.Bf5 was to much theory and the tal is annoying 

Duckfest

I’m playing the Caro-Kann and the Gotham Chess course has been my initial source of study material. While 3. Bf5 is the main line, the deviation that Levy suggests, to play c5, is one of the main reasons I’m happy I bought the course. 

At my (our) level, the main moves I face after playing c5 are c3 (~50% of the time) and Nf3 (~22-23%) of the time. Move 4.dxc5 I see about 16% of the time and after 4 Nc6 I’ve only seen 5. f4 twice.  So I can’t comment on that specific line. I can share my experience playing 3. c5, the lines I face and which lines are difficult.

Just to be sure, since you play Caro-Kann yourself as well, you are asking how to play against this line from white’s perspective, right?

The way I develop my repertoire is a combination of openingtree.com, to see how often moves are played and to see the winrates for non masters, combined with engine analysis and finding other content. So, my first suggestion would be to look into 4. c4 rather than taking. It’s by far the worst line for black.

ConfusedGhoul

if the only resource about an opening you can find is a paid course then that should give you an idea about the soundness of the opening... of course 3... Bf5 is much better but if you want to play this way keep in mind that if you want to get your pawn back you have to make some concessions

najdorf96

indeed. Chessable is a great resource but for me, practical experience is always the way to go. I as well have never fared well with that particular variation in question! To each their own I guess. Who knows, you may come up with some ground breaking innovation in the future! Best wishes. In the meantime, just keep grinding. Because that's what I always preach: just play, cuz playin's always the thing with me✌🏽

lostpawn247
ChessHistoryRocks wrote:

I was looking at how to play against the Botvinnik Carls in Caro Kann. I saw this line that scores really well and is recommended by @GothamChess.

I was doing some research and cannot find any real resources on the variations. Do you know any resources that covers this line?

 The majority of the book resources that I have cover 4...e6 instead of 4...Nc6.  So if you are going to examine the line that you are inquiring about, be prepared for both possibilities.

ItsBenjaminTheChessMan

I know. I have found my c5 weapon and saw the potency of this line. Nc6 is also more common. 

KevinOSh

This game doesn't cover 5.f4 but is a good reference game and the video covers some of the opening theory:

I also found this trap that at first looks like White just blunders his Queen but is actually very bad for Black.

ItsBenjaminTheChessMan

I saw that. The game shows why the Botvinnik Carls is just bad with proper play(as that of a GM).

PerpetuallyPinned

You can look at games by Arkell & Khenkin for Black's ideas. Also, how A0 played Stockfish...2 videos here:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6hd-GulcneVi4loTq_rdzgplwQoCtvXE

 

Edit: sorry just remembered 4.f4 is what OP was about