eagiraud, don't waste your time. Leklerk (or another alias) does it on purpose.
It reminds these South park's episodes on trolls.
He's Irish - what do you expect? The Irish drink! He's too drunk to put anything useful.
Think about it. Why do you think everyone in the rest of the world gets drunk every year on March 17th?
ThrillerFan wrote:
"the world gets drunk every year on March 17th?"
Every body is Irish on March 17th.
Hey ThrillerFan, congrats to G-men for being Cowboys only loss this year. Game 2 should be a good one...
White plays the first move then black chooses what opening will be played.
NOT TRUE AT ALL!
The Opening is determined by both players. All this garbage about who decides it is bogus. Just because it is given a "label" based on "Attack" or "Defense" is irrelevant.
So what, it's a French "Defense" or a Torre "Attack". Both sides are still determining the opening.
After 1.e4 e6, forget the label "French", White can take advantage of Black not fighting for the center and play 2.d4 or he can not do that and play one of the Knights or else a move like d3 to re-inforce the e-pawn.
After 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nc6 5.g3 Nf6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.O-O O-O 8.Re1 b5, you'll often see the label "King's Indian Attack", but a moment ago you said that 1.e4 e6 is the French?
This again is why I say, forget about the stupid "labelling" of openings. Both sides determine the Opening. What says Black had to play 1...e6? What says White had to play 2.d3? Neither side has control over what "Opening" is played.
1...e6 and 2...d5 does not constitute the French. After 1.d4 e6 2.c4 d5, you don't have a French, you have a Queen's Gambit Declined!
1.d4 and 2.c4 does not constitute the Queen's Gambit. After 1.d4 f5 2.c4 Nf6, you are in a Dutch Defense!
So all of this bopkis of "Who Determines the Opening" is a bunch of malarky!
Hey ThrillerFan, congrats to G-men for being Cowboys only loss this year. Game 2 should be a good one...
Depends on which Eli and which O'Dell shows up.
Eli Manning has gotten to be as inconsistent as Rex Grossman. Good Eli/Bad Eli!
O'Dell Beckham Jr is a total hot head, and all you have to do is get under his skin like Josh Norman did last year when he was with Carolina and he'll get himself ejected in no time, or if he does handle it without ejection, you'll be so in his head that he does nothing!
The Giants have got to be the most erratic team in the NFL this year. Erratic and Bad are not the same thing - don't confuse the G-Men with the Cleveland Browns!
Thanks for repeating what I said.
I didn't repeat what you said. Has nothing to do with branches or anything like that.
Not like Black chooses then White chooses or anything like that. Not every move alters the course of the opening.
It's not a linear thing like you make it out to be. Think of it like two 20-year old gals jumping in a 20 foot mosh pit full of speghetti and meatballs and throwing punches at each other. Is it a linear process? Does one throw a punch and then the other? No! The first one could throw 3 punches in a row!
Thanks for repeating what I said.
I didn't repeat what you said. Has nothing to do with branches or anything like that.
Not like Black chooses then White chooses or anything like that. Not every move alters the course of the opening.
It's not a linear thing like you make it out to be. Think of it like two 20-year old gals jumping in a 20 foot mosh pit full of speghetti and meatballs and throwing punches at each other. Is it a linear process? Does one throw a punch and then the other? No! The first one could throw 3 punches in a row!
very illustrative. Not to mention that either player can choose to play more of a "system" rather than an opening, where move orders are even less consequential.....then you have an even bigger mess when compared to the linear, "i go here, they go hear" branching description
ThrillerFan wrote:
chessking1976 wrote:
Hey ThrillerFan, congrats to G-men for being Cowboys only loss this year. Game 2 should be a good one...
Depends on which Eli and which O'Dell shows up.
Eli Manning has gotten to be as inconsistent as Rex Grossman. Good Eli/Bad Eli!
O'Dell Beckham Jr is a total hot head, and all you have to do is get under his skin like Josh Norman did last year when he was with Carolina and he'll get himself ejected in no time, or if he does handle it without ejection, you'll be so in his head that he does nothing!
The Giants have got to be the most erratic team in the NFL this year. Erratic and Bad are not the same thing - don't confuse the G-Men with the Cleveland Browns!
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I'll pass this info to Coach Garrett! Ha
Cowboys are a solid TEAM, 5 wins in a row without starting QB and a couple w/o (arguably) best receiver in the league. Will Romo be our starter when he heals? We don't know...Tons of questions...looking forward to the games!
Thanks for repeating what I said.
I didn't repeat what you said. Has nothing to do with branches or anything like that.
Not like Black chooses then White chooses or anything like that. Not every move alters the course of the opening.
It's not a linear thing like you make it out to be. Think of it like two 20-year old gals jumping in a 20 foot mosh pit full of speghetti and meatballs and throwing punches at each other. Is it a linear process? Does one throw a punch and then the other? No! The first one could throw 3 punches in a row!
Oh, so there ae no branching points then?
You play 1.e4 I play 1..e6 after this the game is considered a freaking French defense, or at least will have French structures, then you choose what variation you want to play, another branching point etc...
Thanks for repeating what I said.
I didn't repeat what you said. Has nothing to do with branches or anything like that.
Not like Black chooses then White chooses or anything like that. Not every move alters the course of the opening.
It's not a linear thing like you make it out to be. Think of it like two 20-year old gals jumping in a 20 foot mosh pit full of speghetti and meatballs and throwing punches at each other. Is it a linear process? Does one throw a punch and then the other? No! The first one could throw 3 punches in a row!
Oh, so there ae no branching points then?
You play 1.e4 I play 1..e6 after this the game is considered a freaking French defense, or at least will have French structures, then you choose what variation you want to play, another branching point etc...
What you are saying isn't even true!
1.e4 e6 doesn't constitute the French Defense. 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 is the French Defense.
So based on what you are saying, the following are all French Defenses, huh?
1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 c5 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 a6
1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nc6 5.g3 Nf6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.O-O O-O
1.e4 e6 2.d4 b6 3.Nc3
Last time I looked, the first one is a Sicilian Kan, and the second is a King's Indian Attack or some may refer to it as a "KIA vs French", but it's not formally a French Defense, and the Third one is Owen's Defense, and had White played 3.c4 before moving the Knight, you'd have an English Defense!
In addition:
1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.e5 Nc6 5.Nf3
Now according to you, 1.e4 c5 is a Sicilian, but last time I looked, that position is a French!
So no opening is even decided on move 1 by Black! You may THINK it's going to be a French, but 1.e4 e6 is not automatically a French, and the lack of those 2 moves doesn't mean it won't be a French!
Ok ThrillerFan, I cant discuss the fact that transpositions exist.
But you cant discuss that who is to move in branching points changes each time. (Like what I said on my first post)
Possibly even funnier than "Who determines the opening" becoming a Phd subject, is the evolution of the trolls. For example, SaintGermain32105 -> Pestebalcanica -> Leklerk.
Mmm che profumino! Che avete cucinato oggi, polpette di medda?
@TwoMove: Leklerk is SaintGermain? I never knew that. But leklerk made it painfully obvious that he was pestebalcanica.
is there anything that you have ever said about anything that makes the smallest contribution to the extinction of morons
Find the type of pawn chain's you like to play with then see what opening use that kind of pawn chain.... always found that the easiest way to work out what opening to try. many opening can transpose so you can start out with one kind of pawn chain in mind then have that change during the game, use the opening to steer the game so you have the pawn chain you want in the middle game.... one that you know and understand.... give's you a plan from the very first move... just my thinking so might be told it is very wrong.....
p.s. It is always ok to tease the Irish. Lerky Lerk, please be more accepting of the teasing. I appreciate your unusual contributions.