@seayun: congratulations, with your argument you've just refuted 1.d4 as obsolete!
What if d5 was played?
I have 2 machines play against each other, which are properly the strongest engines on earth : Stockfish 7 and Kodomo 10. I let both of the machines play king's gambit, and the result tend to be a failure for white. Im quite sure that kings gambit is not a good choice at all
Your "test" could also be named "total waste of CPU cycles and electric power".
Haha, nice one pfren.
There is a simple solution to hating the King's Gambit:
Don't play it!
As white....
Obviously. OP was writing from the White side.
Everyone who thinks the KG is a terrible opening ought to be happy to play against it as Black.
From what I can tell, anecdotally and from the Slow Chess League database, the King's Gambit remains an effective weapon at the class level.
Of course it's not a good choice if you don't like gambit play. If you do, it has the advantages of probably surprising your opponent and getting him into lines he knows less well. Plus as White the KG is all you need to know for handling 1...e5.
As white....
Obviously. OP was writing from the White side.
Everyone who thinks the KG is a terrible opening ought to be happy to play against it as Black.
From what I can tell, anecdotally and from the Slow Chess League database, the King's Gambit remains an effective weapon at the class level.
Of course it's not a good choice if you don't like gambit play. If you do, it has the advantages of probably surprising your opponent and getting him into lines he knows less well. Plus as White the KG is all you need to know for handling 1...e5.
To assume Black knows it "less well" is hogwash! Just like how you say that by playing 2.f4?!, that's "All White needs to know" and doesn't have to know say, the Petroff or Philidor, the same can be said for Black.
All Black has to know is ONE LINE against the King's Gambit! He can play 2...Bc5 OR 2...d5 OR 2...exf4 (and then have something for 3.Nf3, 3.Bc4, and 3.d4). Notice the "OR" and not "AND"!
Even if Black Accepts, he still doesn't need to know all lines of the Accepted like White does. If White plays 3.Nf3, Black must know either the Classical (3...g5) OR the Modern (3...d5) OR the Cunningham (3...Be7) OR the Becker Defense (3...h6) OR the Schallop Variation (3...Nf6) OR the Fischer Variation (3...d6) OR any one of many other minor lines!
White? Guess what? You have to know ALL of these!
So it's not all sh*ts and giggles for White just because you avoid the Petroff! 2.f4?! is dubious at best!
To assume Black knows it "less well" is hogwash! iggles for White just because you avoid the Petroff! 2.f4?! is dubious at best!
I didn't assume that. I said Black would probably know it less well. And I was speaking at the class level.
Really, TF, you post interesting stuff, but I don't see the necessity of high dudgeon shrieking as you often do. Hurts my ears.
At the Slow Chess League the KG managed remarkable stats of 0.67 wins, 0.11 draws, 0.22 losses, suggesting to me that Black didn't know the KG as well as White at the class level.
To assume Black knows it "less well" is hogwash! iggles for White just because you avoid the Petroff! 2.f4?! is dubious at best!
I didn't assume that. I said Black would probably know it less well. And I was speaking at the class level.
Really, TF, you post interesting stuff, but I don't see the necessity of high dudgeon shrieking as you often do. Hurts my ears.
At the Slow Chess League the KG managed remarkable stats of 0.67 wins, 0.11 draws, 0.22 losses, suggesting to me that Black didn't know the KG as well as White at the class level.
Sounds like a small sample size. I'm going to guess 10 games with 7 wins, a draw, and 2 losses for White.
First off, in statistics, anything less than 30 is not a valid sample size, by definition, to generalize.
Secondly, notice your emphasis on Class players. If that is your basis for giving advice, nobody should listen to you. Why suggest something that will only work against class players and not Experts, Masters, or beyond? So that once they reach 2000, they can start all over again re-studying sound stuff? Why not teach them sound stuff in the first place? Openings that follow general principles? Not talking the high theory stuff like the Grunfeld or King's Indian. The Queen's Gambit and the Ruy Lopez are two of the best openings to learn at the beginning levels because they both follow general opening principles to the letter, unlike say, the Scandinavian, which violates the "Don't move the Queen early" principle.
Of course, my hate for the King's Gambit with high success rate as Black against it is also going to lead me to harsh statements about the White side of the KG, like it or not! I have literally zero respect for the KG. If I knew every opponent would play 2.f4, I'd make 1...e5 instead of 1...c6 my regular response to 1.e4. Problem is, 2.Nf3 is strong, and while Black's position is 100% sound after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3, it's no fun defending it!
I hate the King's Gambit.It's so annoying to deal with and It usually gives me a quick endgame that i'm not too fond of.I sometimes get quick checkmates against lower-rated players.
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Spassky was pretty good at the King's gambit you should have a look over some of his games,
The King's Gambit is a perfectly good opening at any level of chess. It's a sound opening.
Bronstein and Spassky have played it at the grandmaster level and done well with it.
I would say that if you decline the gambit play the Falkbeer and save yourself the embarassment of saying. I was so macho I don't need an extra pawn to beat my.... wait did he.... he just.... he just beat me.... mommmy he beated me with the kings gambit. waaaaaaaaaaa ima gonna write an article saying how much this opening sucks.