Your favorite opening trap

Eebster
Sorbis wrote:
gramarnazi wrote:
Sorbis wrote:

Black's Nxf2 is unsound, so I don't really call that a trap (imo, the setup of a good trap does not require an unsound move, but instead lured into what appears to be a good move). I'm assuming black takes f2 planning on fried livering back white's knight? Well, the knight can retreat to block the check and is protected by the pawn. So black just sacrificed a minor piece for a pawn (white can move his rook to f1, then king to g1 and pretty much be in good position).


Can you show me, i dont really see what you mean. If Kxf2, doesnt Nxe5 win a pawn for black? And no, i was not talking about any fried liver tactic, just a simple capture on e5. Can you show me how white would win back the pawn in this position?


I don't know much about this position, but it looks extremely dangerous for white to me. The queen, bishop, and knight checks could be deadly. I would never want this position as white.

Musikamole
eXecute wrote:

 

I kind of like this variation, but with all opening traps etc, there are ways out and it's hard to remember everything.

What deception! Black permits White to play Ng5 and capture a rook - only to get mated by Black in the end.

I certainly wouldn't know, especially in a blitz game, how to get out of this trap. Thanks for the post! Smile I inserted a few variations into your trap that came from an engine. I seriously doubt White (human player) will be this clever in the last variation. Black has an easy win.  

6.c3!  - absolutely must be played for White to avoid the worst of the trap.


Sorbis
Eebster wrote:
Sorbis wrote:
gramarnazi wrote:
Sorbis wrote:

Black's Nxf2 is unsound, so I don't really call that a trap (imo, the setup of a good trap does not require an unsound move, but instead lured into what appears to be a good move). I'm assuming black takes f2 planning on fried livering back white's knight? Well, the knight can retreat to block the check and is protected by the pawn. So black just sacrificed a minor piece for a pawn (white can move his rook to f1, then king to g1 and pretty much be in good position).


Can you show me, i dont really see what you mean. If Kxf2, doesnt Nxe5 win a pawn for black? And no, i was not talking about any fried liver tactic, just a simple capture on e5. Can you show me how white would win back the pawn in this position?


I don't know much about this position, but it looks extremely dangerous for white to me. The queen, bishop, and knight checks could be deadly. I would never want this position as white.


So you agree that Nxf2 would of been good for black if it weren't for the trap i showed?

Azukikuru

This is one I tend to try against weaker players when I play the Queen's Gambit (it's worked twice!):

And another one that worked against the Scotch Game:

doodinthemood
My opening repetoire is filled with lots of nice little traps. Here's a fun one that you likely won't have seen before.
GShelton
Musikamole wrote:

I stumbled onto this opening trap which I found both entertaining and instructive. A GM Walter Browne was beat in this trap by a guy 1000 points lower in elo during a simul. It's called the fishing pole trap and you can learn more about it by watching either the youtube presentation by jrobichess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqq2OAU3JQk or Brian Wall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exGSXjvKej0&feature=fvw.

I'm only a year into my chess journey, so if you have little interest in posting a favorite trap because all of this is old hat to you, then I'd much appreciate your feedback on a favorite book on traps.

Why traps? I'm a pretty passive player in blitz play, so I am exploring ways to be a more attacking player.

All annotations are mine. If I made any mistakes, please feel free to fix them. I hope you enjoy playing the Ruy Lopez as Black in a blitz game in the future and taking White completely out of book.

 


So.... can somebody tell me why after 8..... g3 white decides to give up the queen for nothing by doing 9 Qh5 (it's going to be mated anyway after the queen gets captured, it acomplished nothing) instead of trying 9.Knight to f3, I know it may doesn't solve all of white problems but it stops the mate on h2 and it threatens the black queen while it can't be captured by the pawn on g3 anymore and it leaves the square on e1 free so the rook can give a scape to the king.

 

The trap is nice, but I don't see the logic of the end

 

Cheers

sheryllynntan33
My recent game

 

DavidStefanov
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003_faith

I'd get the following sequence semi-regularly up until the 1300-1400s or so (10 minute blitz)

Edit to add: the move orders can vary before Ne5

 

 

ThrillerFan

Who cares?  Traps are Crap!

I play for the advantage, not for traps.