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Tigre_75

If you're referring to players who know they've lost and aren't actually playing the game and are letting their clock run down then I would agree with you (I don't know why they do this - maybe trying to bore you into abandoning the game so that their rating increases!), but if they're playing at a reasonable pace to try and win, and you think they should 'accept defeat' then I think that idea is completely absurd. The reason that professionals/GMs resign well before the end of the game is that a) they see positions further ahead and more quickly than the average player on a site like this, and b) they virtually always play the best move for the situation. Secondly you assume that neither player gets any benefit out of playing an endgame, but that is a skill that a lot of players claim that they need to improve. So instead of trying to wind your opponent up with sarcastic comments, why not use your advantageous position to practice your endgame and see how quickly you can checkmate your opponent?

You don't win a game of chess by being up in material, as your opponent can win on time, or can be materially down and still win via checkmate. I have done this myself, even after losing my queen when a lot of players would resign because they think it's impossible to win without their most powerful piece. If you resigned because you thought I'd lost and made a snarky comment then I'd be happy to take that as a win thank you very much.

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Elubas

The game is of some value as it is taking place, as there is almost always, at least, an extremely low chance of a swindle occurring. If you don't want to use too much energy for too unlikely of an outcome, resign. If you don't mind putting in the energy and want to keep playing, more power to you.

Even if I was up two rooks vs one against houdini in an ending, maybe with a few minor pieces and pawns on the board too, I might only win about 99-99.99% of the time.

So again, it's simply hard to know anything for sure. Could I win king and two rooks vs king against houdini 100000 times in a row, at a rate of 1000 tedious times per day? I don't know; one day I might get so bored I forget about one of my rooks hanging as I make the mating net. Kramnik missed a mate in 1 once; stripunsky hung a rook and bishop; sometimes your mind just randomly forgets about something.

Or, maybe I would succeed in winning 100000 times in a row. However, even if you are wrong about being able to hold a position, there is no net loss to you, other than energy, but frankly, I tend not to mind playing for hours and hours -- I like the game too much.

robobeer

I completely disagree also. This reminds me of a game I am currently playing.

http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=61346382

I was pretty proud I was able to punish whites queen for being too bold, so I celebrated by giving mine away.

A lot can be learned from both sides by playing to the end.

landwehr
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u42467

If its about etiquette, then it should be of about not abusing vacation status when in loosing position.

landwehr
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robobeer

Thats a great idea untill you go on vacation and have 3 "no vacation" tourneys going. heh.

landwehr
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ilikeflags

how did this gem of a thread go 6 days before its second comment was registered!?  this is groundbreaking stuff.  hey dudes, this bloke started a "resign" thread!  hire him.

ilikeflags
robobeer wrote:

I completely disagree also. This reminds me of a game I am currently playing.

http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=61346382

I was pretty proud I was able to punish whites queen for being too bold, so I celebrated by giving mine away.

A lot can be learned from both sides by playing to the end.

lies!

landwehr
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AlCzervik

I always go for the kill against a juggler

DnlKgn

Well personally, if i was playing against a stronger opponent and at a disatvantage (which btw i'd be at the very beginning, since there is a skill diffrence... if i'd follow your logic, i'd have to resign before i even start playing...) i'd never resign unless it's obvios, that I'm gonna be mated in a few moves... But only becouse the opponent is stronger... It is a great opportunity to learn and study his gameplay and if anything bad comes out of this, is that i haven't learend a thing out of it... which i seriosly doubt (again, if the opponent is stronger)...

I can't see any other way of getting better besides playing strong opponents... if i play only games, i know i will winn, because the opponent is weaker it gets really boring really fast and i'm gonna be stuck at my skilllevel...

Good chess-etiguette is to have fun while playing the game and hoping to be a challange to the opponent... mating itself can be a real challange even, if it is obvios, that it is going to happen... and a real challange is always fun... so i hope my oppenent is also having fun while he's completly chrushing me :)

Stevie65

The future of internet chess...There is no resignation.

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DnlKgn

Now i'm confused--- what's the point of your article if you are not a supporter of it's contend yourself?

ilikeflags

he's shifty this one.  plus he's from down under.  we've all seen the thread about australia and chess right?

SmyslovFan

If you're rated U1600 here, there's no reason to resign a live game. You can learn a great deal by playing these positions out and you will occasionally swindle a game.

If you are rated +2000 OTB, you already should know when to resign and probably aren't reading this thread to gain advice.