Who is the greatest chess player of all time ?? Bobby Fischer ??
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Kasparov
He writes his own books And is playing in the st Louie. If he trained hard he could get to the top 5 again
diego3141 wrote:
He writes his own books And is playing in the st Louie. If he trained hard he could get to the top 5 again
I guess Kasparov reach top two performance after a few tournaments. He is the only one right now that has what it takes to play on the freshest Magnus-level. The players that has best chances to take WC from Magnus is maybe Kasparov and Praggananda. Kasparov is probably too late for qualifying now, and should try to take it in 2020. After that he might get too old. Praggananda can become monsterstrong in 2026, maybe already in 2024.
Fischer a joué contre Spassky une deuxième fois au moment ou Karpov était le plus fort joueur, Fischer c'est donc dévalorisé, il ne peux pas être classé meilleur joueur de tous les temps. Karpov a remis en jeu de nombreuses fois son titre de champion du monde en battant pour le titre, des joueurs plus jeunes que lui Anand, Kamsky, de plus Kasparov n'a jamais nettement dominé Karpov . Pour moi c'est Karpov en premier puis viennent Capablanca, Korchnoi, Morphy, Mikhail Tal, Kramnik ....
Fischer played against Spassky a second time when Karpov was the strongest player, so Fischer is devalued, he can not be ranked as the best player of all time. Karpov has repeatedly challenged his title of world champion by beating for the title, players younger than him Anand, Kamsky ... Kasparov has never clearly dominated Karpov. For me it is Karpov first and then come Capablanca, Korchnoi, Morphy, Mikhail Tal, Kramnik ....
Aug 22, 2017
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#1367
On the last day in St Louis, there was a lot of the old Kasparov magic, daring and flair. 3 wins and 5 draws from his last 8 games.
Kasparov
The best players ... Karpov, Capablanca, Morphy, korchnoi, Kramnik, Fischer, Kasparov, Philidor, Lasker, Alekhine .....
Aug 24, 2017
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#1370
I want to answer this question from a different perspective. Fischer did more than other players to bring prestige, promotion, world wide attention, call it what you will to the game of chess. As a chess player I admire him, not so much as a person. Finally, he brought more MONEY into the game. In this respect he could be considered the greatest.
The first games of Fischer show that he was not a genius like Morphy, Capablanca or Reshevsky, he had a lack of positive spirit which essentially gave him a stupid character contrary to his interest. He saw in Karpov a player who could play as well as Capablanca because for Bobby, Capablanca was the reference and that is why he did everything to not play against Karpov.
Aug 28, 2017
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#1372
Fischer defeated US Champion Reshevsky as early as 1958, when he was 15 years old, but no, not a genius. About Karpov, it was discussed in extenso in this and other threads. Better read instead of displaying your ignorance.
bobbyop2 wrote:
Finally, he brought more MONEY into the game. In this respect he could be considered the greatest.
How does bringing money into the game make him a great player? And did he do it out of philanthropy towards his fellow chess players or to line his own wallet?
I would say Kasparov or Capablanca, both world champs and no. 1s for long periods.
As far as the world is concern Kasparov has the record that is undisputed and unmatched.
@mcris, I have nothing to do with your arrogance, look elsewhere!
Aug 29, 2017
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#1376
ed1975 wrote:
bobbyop2 wrote:
Finally, he brought more MONEY into the game. In this respect he could be considered the greatest.
How does bringing money into the game make him a great player? And did he do it out of philanthropy towards his fellow chess players or to line his own wallet?
Look up what Eidinow, Brady, Saidy, Evans and others who have lived through those times have to say about the Fischer years or the Fischer boom: for a year or two following Reykjavik it was as though money were falling from the sky; GMs and even some IMs could make a decent living out of chess alone. USCF membership doubled between 1971 and 1973 and peaked in 1974, and stores ran out of chess sets. Chess suddenly moved the front pages. Posters of celebrities ranging from actors to politicians playing chess were everywhere. It wasn't just money, it was exposure... a true phenomenon!
Aug 29, 2017
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#1377
lytonn wrote:
@mcris, I have nothing to do with your arrogance, look elsewhere!
You better study some dictionary, too.
alinfe wrote:
ed1975 wrote:
bobbyop2 wrote:
Finally, he brought more MONEY into the game. In this respect he could be considered the greatest.
How does bringing money into the game make him a great player? And did he do it out of philanthropy towards his fellow chess players or to line his own wallet?
Look up what Eidinow, Brady, Saidy, Evans and others who have lived through those times have to say about the Fischer years or the Fischer boom: for a year or two following Reykjavik it was as though money were falling from the sky; GMs and even some IMs could make a decent living out of chess alone. USCF membership doubled between 1971 and 1973 and peaked in 1974, and stores ran out of chess sets. Chess suddenly moved the front pages. Posters of celebrities ranging from actors to politicians playing chess were everywhere. It wasn't just money, it was exposure... a true phenomenon!
This may all be true, but did RJF ask for all the money that he did out of concern for his fellow chess players or for purely selfish reasons, and the money for the others came as a by-product?
Aug 29, 2017
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#1379
After 1972 he was offered milions of dollars by crowned heads to play demonstrative games, but refused. So, personal greed is out of the question.
Jose R Capablanca/ Robert J Fischer/ Tigran Petrosian