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Who Is The Greatest Chess Player That Has Ever Lived ???
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- The top three would be Carlson, Tal and Kasparov and whatever order you want but I would put it in like this
- carlson
- tal
- kasparov.
- In case of the people that will be like Kasparov is better than tal, tal’s last game was against Kasparov and tal won easily
Jul 21, 2021
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#345
Morphy. He rolled out of bed, went to Europe to find someone who could match him, found no one so returned home and stopped playing at 22.
Does Carlson play better? Sure. But Morphy was so far ahead of his field, he literally had no one to play against. Maybe if he had, he would have been even better.
The best anyone ever did was Harrwitz vs a no-sleep Morphy (Morphy won 5.5-2.5).
A lot went into making Carlsen which doesn't have anything to do with Carlsen himself. If we took him as a child and sent him back in time to grow up and develop in Morphy's day, do we really think he'd be anywhere near as strong as he is now? No way. Not a chance. Morphy would have kicked his butt too, just like the rest.
chessman1504 wrote:
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Kasparov
Fischer
Magnus
Jul 22, 2021
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#352
Preusseagro wrote:
You lnow the players in Europe eg Anderssen and Tarasch had jobs?
Yeah, everyone had jobs (or were independently wealthy).
The bigger difference between Morphy and the rest is he was young and entirely self-taught.
Jul 22, 2021
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#353
pauldrapier wrote:
Preusseagro wrote:
You lnow the players in Europe eg Anderssen and Tarasch had jobs?
Yeah, everyone had jobs (or were independently wealthy).
The bigger difference between Morphy and the rest is he was young and entirely self-taught.
Yeah, he was entirely self taught except for his family, and the community of chess players he knew. And the books he read.
Jul 22, 2021
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#354
Philipbonguyen wrote:
No , it is Fischer who is the best
Fischer is instantly disqualified because he wouldn't play people.
Regardless of talent-level, you can't be "champion" and then refuse to play challengers, Staunton-style.
Contrast that with Morphy who would play anyone anywhere. When he retired, he even offered to play all comers handicapped a pawn and a move.
Jul 22, 2021
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#355
ElZooted wrote:
chessman1504 wrote:
ElZooted wrote:
deez
"deez what?"
deez nuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-15VC4Yxzys
Jul 23, 2021
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#356
> Yeah, he was entirely self taught except for his family, and the community of chess players he knew. And the books he read.
His family weren't great chess players, and there were almost no books except Staunton's Handbook and the Chess Chronicle.
Why did Morphy travel thousands of miles to Europe? Because there wasn't anyone close to his level in the US. (Well, turned out to be true for Europe too....but still...)
Jul 25, 2021
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#357
SmyslovFan wrote:
Steinitz exceeded Morphy (in intrinsic performance rating) and he was older than Morphy.
Morphy, like Fischer, set the imagination aflame and created a loyal following. If he had played Steinitz or even if he had continued playing rather than retire, perhaps he could be considered the greatest.
But I can’t think of a single sport where the greatest of that sport simply stopped playing once they won their first title.
The greatest, for me at least, has to show longevity and be willing to face all comers.
they were born in the same year iirc
Jul 25, 2021
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#358
earikbeann wrote:
A lot went into making Carlsen which doesn't have anything to do with Carlsen himself. If we took him as a child and sent him back in time to grow up and develop in Morphy's day, do we really think he'd be anywhere near as strong as he is now? No way. Not a chance. Morphy would have kicked his butt too, just like the rest.
at the age of 12, morphy beat louis paulsen iirc. at the age of 13, magnus drew kasparov. lol
Jul 25, 2021
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#359
quietheathen1st wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:
Steinitz exceeded Morphy (in intrinsic performance rating) and he was older than Morphy.
…
they were born in the same year iirc
You don’t have to recall, just look it up.
That's one of the most amazing things about Morphy--he wasn't really a "chess player". He was a law student who had a few months of enforced idleness (out of law school while still too young to be admitted to the bar) to pursue his hobby. He went to New York to play in the first big national championship tournament (his first major tournament), won handily and went to Europe to convincingly beat the world's most highly-regarded players. That his contemporaries hailed him as the greatest player ever and all succeeding generations have rated him as among the most creative and dominant masters ever while he was pursuing his hobby (that he didn't think deserved to be taken very seriously) while on vacation is an accomplishment which no other player has ever approached. Maybe not the greatest player ever, but certainly worthy of consideration.