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samuelebeckis

Please don't complain about Elephants, just improve your Elephant-play:

"In the weakest pieces you'll find the deepest strategy of this game!"

 

Definetly Ancient Chess was an analytic game of finely detailed strategy, just as modern Chess I guess, or likely even more. Chessmen had to move 'dancing' on a different music though, since we are going back in time, up to -- at least -- 1500 years ago! Only few pieces moved differently really, and just a few game rules were different, I mean basically it's always Chess, just in its 'primitive' form.

 

Piece values, according to me, are:
Rook=6,
Horse=4,
Farzin=2,
Alfil=1.5,
central pawn=1.5,
other pawns=1.

 

Note: when I say 'Horses' I refers to the Knights, while 'Farzin' is the Persian for Minister/ wise man/ counselor/ vizir... Farzin or whatever called: Firzan, Firz, Ferz, Fers or Fersa... I mean that guy next to the King!!

Rooks are the strongest pieces on the board and they strongly define the rythm of the dance, just like a sort of drums. Horses instead are like trumpets and they make great efficient jumps which we already know from standard Chess.

Alfils, weak pieces which take big steps, sometimes just sitting and doing their job 'silently', they seems to be like the basses of our music. A bit apart from the rumble an Alfil (or so-called Elephant) can often survive until the end of the game, or just beeing exchanged in the midgame for a 'good pawn'.

Keeping with the metaphor, I'd say that pawns are like a chorus, while Farzin is like an ancient cithara or maybe a lyre; that's kind of a Bishop but on a smaller 'scale', and it stands alone, without any 'brother' on the opposite-colour squares (unless of a pawn promotion on the right colour)... Well, back in the ages, the chessboard wasn't checkered, but nothing changes in fact it's always an 8x8 grid.

 

First steps in the opening:

In my usual play pawns go first, this seems to be the most logical thing. Having both Kings set on the d-file, I personally open as first player with c3--d3--e3--f3, followed by b3--c4; and then my Horse (on the kingside) can have a nice development in c3 or d2.

1-2-3-4 steps are kind of universal, while 5 and 6 are a clear approach to my favourite opening: the Mujannah.

samuelebeckis

So what to do with the Elephants ?

In Western literature they are mostly known as Alfils, from the Arabic 'al-Fil' just meaning 'the-Elephant'. Why to use an Arabic word, isn't this game Indian? Indeed the game originated in India and quickly spread into Persia and Arabia where it was played at a very high professional level, then later in Europe, finally giving birth to modern orthodox Chess. So several Arabic terms survived even in modern Chess literature such as Rook, Alfil, Fers, tabiya, Mujannah ... Therefore I'd like to follow keeping the name 'Alfil'.

AlfilsA.png

Each of the 4 Alfils can only reach 8 squares of the board, different from one another so that no one can capture -- nor protect -- any other. All together they control 32 squares out of 64: no Alfil can reach any central squares, no Alfil can reach any corner squares, 32 squares in total are unreachable to any Alfils (they are gray in my diagram above).

One can be tempted to move them immediately toward the center (in d3 and e3) so giving them more space and mobility, unfortunately this would block the central pawns and likely you will have to move your Alfils back if you want to advance your pawns, so... It's probably better to wait the right moment for the Alfils to develop in the right place.

AlfilsB.png

Really they can already do an excellent job by just sitting in their starting positions, providing a formidable crossed defence in the middle -- assuming to have a backward pawn center in d3 and e3 -- and so giving protection to King and Farzin, both from frontal attacks and side attacks. Definitely a solid formation where our wise King is safe in his 'palace', the center is protected, and the Elephants are ready to support flank attacks on both sides.

Other than that just remember that an Alfil is worth just a bit more than a pawn, so when you exchange it for 2 pawns you're actually getting material advantage, even for only 1 central pawn it's okay, it is not a sacrifice it's just an equal exchange. Sometimes exchanging an Alfil for pawns is the best move to do and it might be a crucial move in order to achieve a positional advantage.

AlfilsC.png

Finally it may be useful to notice that 2 pawns and an Alfil can form a self-defending structure which can be a solid formation for the midgame or a helpful one for the endgame, especially in case you are down in material and need to protect your pieces from the enemy attacks.

 

saintbenidict1
I love chaturanga too, this is really helpful for a novice. Good job!
saveriogamba

In spanish we maintain the word Alfil for naming the Bishop

saintbenidict1

really? that makes more sense in my opinion.

samuelebeckis

The Chariot/Boat/Castle is still called Rook in English from Persian 'Rukh', while the Elefant/Bishop/Minister is still called Alfil in Spanish from the Arabic 'al-Fil', and the Queen/Vizir is still called Ferz in Russian (Ферзь) from the Arabic Ferz or Firzan, from Persian 'Farzin'.

'Xiang' in Chinese is really funny because it means Elephant and also Minister... XiangQi literally  means the Game of the Elephants. A part from the addition of the Cannons (or Catapults), the other pieces move like in Shatranj, with just some minor restrictions. There are unexpected similarities between the 2 games, in some patterns and also in some game-play features. King and pawns are different though from what we are used to.

Makruk is also cool, just an Eastern version of Chaturanga, as a matter of fact the closest to the original game among the present day Chess variants. Only the Elephants move differently from Shatranj (or let's call it 'the Western Chaturanga') but the game-play results to be quite different with that change in force. While I don't know much about Shogi, anyway it's clear that it is the one that differs more from the original, still having some similarity with Makruk though.

And well, it would be fair also to state how great modern orthodox Chess is, but I think that goes without saying. I created this thread as a declaration of love because, thanks to Chess-dot-com, I have finally discovered what is the best alternative for me to standard Chess: it's just the ancient -- forgotten -- version of the game ... Amazing !

Here I just tried to share some basic strategies for novices to get started, but there would be much more to say and maybe I will if I have time. Although I am not such a great player so I think someone which is better than me should correct me if I say something inaccurate. I rely on my personal experience and also on some ancient sources written more than 1,000 years ago. I think the Chess skills of humanity nowadays are in average much higher than in the past, so what written by ancient Shatranj champions is likely still valuable, but it possibly deserves a review by talented players of our age.

ChampoftheBepoCamp

Superb Article!

samuelebeckis

Mujannah, the most common opening

In the following diagrams the convention of Kings on the e-file is used, so everything's mirrored compared to the game interface of Chess-dot-com. I hope it is not too confusing.

The Mujannah is a formation (tabiya) that can be built in 12 moves either by White or Black. It could be simply described as: advancing both Alfil's pawns to the 4th rank, each of them supported by two pawns on the 3rd rank; Horses moving toward the centre (Nc3 and Nf3 for White) and Rooks also moving one step toward the centre, still keeping the 1st rank (Rb1 and Rg1 for White).

It's the basic opening every beginner should learn. Not necessary the 'best opening' (if one exists) but likely one of the most efficient, easy to learn and easy to understand. The moves order is not such important and also depends on what the opponent does; likely s/he will not be able to stop the Mujannah formation, at most will force some pawn exchanges but still the main structure holds. When both players use it, then the opening is called 'Double Mujannah'.

I find amazing the different role of the centre squares in Chaturanga compared to modern Chess. Things are less obvious here, advancing in the centre is not always good and flanks attacks might result strategically more efficient, especially on the king-side (as reported by the source quoting an ancient Arabic champion).

What you read above doesn't necessary mean that the Mashaikhi opening is wrong, it is just intended to show what the possible weaknesses of that opening are, compared to the Mujannah. Definitely every player will choose the opening which s/he is most confident to play with, and which matches best with their own play style.

Just try to play the Mujannah, my fellow Chaturanga lovers, and tell me how many games you'll win with it ! wink.png

samuelebeckis

I'll add more contents and more openings when I have the time.

For now just remember the most important thing:

WHERE YOUR ELEPHANTS CAN GO

x-8682337791

Fantastic samuelebeckis! Keep this coming if you have time. It is helping me a lot! Cheers

samuelebeckis

List of Openings Here

I found the work already done by @kinglybingly , how nice, thanks! happy.png He provided a list of 16 openings which certainly includes the most common ones. I suggest as a starting point to focus on just 4 of them which I think might hold 4 important strategic principles:

  • Mujannah (flanked formation);
  • Mashaikhi (sheik's formation);
  • As-Sayyal (the torrent);
  • As-Saif (the sword).


samuelebeckis

Other interesting posts I have found on Chess-dot-com:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/the-oldest-chess-game-recorded

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/the-second-oldest-chess-shatranj-game-registered-recorded 

https://www.chess.com/blog/introuble2/the-immortal-mansuba-of-abu-naim-al-khadim-a-modern-chess-study-and-murrays-proof-game

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/what-do-we-know-about-chaturanga-strategy

And while here I also link mine about requesting to fix the 'bare King' rule:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/site-feedback/chaturanga-draws

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/chaturanga-bug 

...

Feel free to add any links which you find interesting, thanks! wink.png

samuelebeckis

Saif, Sayyal and the weak squares

In my previous post about the Mujannah, if you enlarge the image you can read a sentence from 'The Oxford Companion to Chess' mentioning 'the weak square f4': they followed the King on e-file convention so for us, Chess-dot-com players, it's the weak square c4. This refers to the White player, for Black it's the weak square c5, which is then a nice point where White can concentrate their attacks.

I'll post now an image showing a comparison between the weak square c5 in Ancient Chess and the weak square f7 in Modern Chess. Clearly it is not the same thing: setting a Queen or knight in f7 in Chess is almost a sure win, if not an immediate checkmate; setting a pawn or Alfil in c5 in Chaturanga is just, in most of cases, a positional advantage, however can be crucial.

A white pawn on c5 was called as-Sayyal (the torrent) in Arabic, same for a black pawn on c4 obviously. Every pawn outpost on the fifth rank is a danger for your enemy, but some outposts are traditionally considered stronger than others by experience of the ancient players.

Especially it results to be more efficient (generally) to reach the 5th rank on a square of 'his own Firzan's domain' that cannot be reached by the enemy Firzan. To be clear: White pushes a pawn to the dark square c5, his Firzan controls the dark squares so can protect the pawn directly or indirectly, Black's Firzan instead controls the light squares, the white pawn on c5 is controlling the dark squares b6 and d6 and if the pawn are passed Black has no way to counter.

c5 (or c4 for Black) is also a great square to be occupied by the King's Alfil, so getting a super-elephant outpost with both offensive and defensive tasks thanks to the big steps the Alfil can perform. See an example in the following image:

Another pawn outpost of major importance is e5 (or e4 for Black), i.e. the Firzan's pawn on the fifth rank. This was called as-Saif (the sword) in Arabic. I think it can be really strong if done at the right moment: trying an immediate Saif is usually not worth. Instead there are sound openings where one player goes for an immediate Sayyal.

So finally Saif and Sayyal are not just the names of 2 pawns but also the names of the openings for which the task is to push those 2 pawns respectively on the 5th rank. If the opponent plays wisely will prevent you form doing that, or also, from my playing experience, sometimes I get the Saif but I can't prevent my opponent's Sayyal, or the other way around, so things are more or less equal in those cases.

Anyway sometimes you have both the Saif and the Sayyal but it is not a clear win yet, do not relax with that because you can still lose badly if you do not pay attention. I think this is what I like of Chaturanga, you cannot win in one shot, instead you have to work carefully to gain positional and material advantage little by little, until the time the 'bomb explodes' and you destroy your opponent, or you get destroyed, it depends! grin.png

Aaneliia

Oh wow, amazing, wonderful, 🙊

samuelebeckis

Thank you, thank you, I just do my best to explain the little I know ... Hey Nelly, I haven't had the pleasure of playing a Chaturanga game with you yet. We are having a decline in participants, maybe you would come and revitalize the situation !? wink.png Hahaha

https://www.chess.com/variants/chaturanga

Aaneliia

OMG it would an honor for me 🙊, Actually i love ancient chess as well, (al-shatranj) but called as chaturanga for chesscom system hahah

🙊🙉🙈

samuelebeckis

I agree that most of people know this game as Shatranj, however Chess-dot-com decided to use the original Indian name Chaturanga, and I am fine with that.

The truth is that Chess, Shatranj and Chaturanga are all synonymous, that's why I call it 'Ancient Chess', I think it's the most proper name.

Aaneliia
samuelebeckis wrote:

I agree that most of people know this game as Shatranj, however Chess-dot-com decided to use the original Indian name Chaturanga, and I am fine with that.

The truth is that Chess, Shatranj and Chaturanga are all synonymous, that's why I call it 'Ancient Chess', I think it's the most proper name.

Yeah!! you're right Samuel happy.png I am inviting many friends to come at chaturanga server to know the game ... there are several boys who try to conquerme xD then I say to them ... if you beat me at chaturanga we can hava a date xD so .. they tray and tray, learn and relearn the game xD but I beat them xD poor boys xD hahahahahahah Awwww they try so cute hahaha

Sorry for telling yah this story tongue.png anyway ... you are challenged by me :3 to a chaturanga game hahaha

 

samuelebeckis

Ah wow, this is a very nice incentive! ... Me too then:

< Every girls beating me can have a date! > grin.png

So let's fight, I'm ready.

Aaneliia
samuelebeckis wrote:

Ah wow, this is a very nice incentive! ... Me too then:

< Every girls beating me can have a date! >

So let's fight, I'm ready.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahah 🙊☺ it doesnt work in men, only works with girls i don't know why 🙈 hahaha they just try to catch me then I teach them this ancient game hahaha sorry for them hahahah🤗

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