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# Chessplus (Decreasing draws result)

• #281

Be3

• #282

Martin0   vs   50Mark

• #283

Martin0   vs   50Mark

• #284

@Martin0.

I need your opinion on my new variant :

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess960-chess-variants/simultaneous-moves-chess

• #285

You want to decrease draws, just flip the board around, play again if the game is drawn, but keep the same time you had when the previous draw was agreed.  If zero increment, add 2 second increment.  Repeat until a winner is declared.  Problem solved.

• #286

This won't change the draw rate dramatically. Sure, there would be an extra piece, but if you trade down to endings with symmetrical pawn structure you will have the same problems of making draws. Also, the piece you are proposing is roughly the same strength as a rook, it is just a short-range piece. The relationship between this piece and a rook is similar to the dichotomy between the knight and bishop- they each have positions where one is preferable over the other. Even if this works for a bit of time, eventually we will have the same problem anyway, and it won't be true chess if we change this.

• #287

Nc3

• #288

Martin0   vs   50Mark

• #289
CoachGunnar wrote:

This won't change the draw rate dramatically. Sure, there would be an extra piece, but if you trade down to endings with symmetrical pawn structure you will have the same problems of making draws. Also, the piece you are proposing is roughly the same strength as a rook, it is just a short-range piece. The relationship between this piece and a rook is similar to the dichotomy between the knight and bishop- they each have positions where one is preferable over the other. Even if this works for a bit of time, eventually we will have the same problem anyway, and it won't be true chess if we change this.

It would be the double king and pawns end game because the new piece's  move is like king.

• #290
50Mark wrote:
CoachGunnar wrote:

This won't change the draw rate dramatically. Sure, there would be an extra piece, but if you trade down to endings with symmetrical pawn structure you will have the same problems of making draws. Also, the piece you are proposing is roughly the same strength as a rook, it is just a short-range piece. The relationship between this piece and a rook is similar to the dichotomy between the knight and bishop- they each have positions where one is preferable over the other. Even if this works for a bit of time, eventually we will have the same problem anyway, and it won't be true chess if we change this.

It would be the double king and pawns end game because the new piece's  move is like king.

Many times there are positions where we have one king and our opponent makes a barrier in these endgames- a second king will not change this. With symmetrical pawn structures, these positions should be a draw even with 2 kings

• #291

@ CoachGunnar.

The second king (new piece) could be sacrificed to open the barrier and gain position or tempo advantage considering the new piece's moves are one square at a time.

In the end game one player mostly have the square number difference toward promotion rank than their opponent's.This slightly advantage will be hard to be predicted.

• #292

Martin0   vs   50Mark

• #293

f3

• #294

Martin0   vs   50Mark

• #295

Martin0   vs   50Mark

• #296
50Mark wrote:

This variant haven't related to chessplus.com.

We have plan to actualize our two chess variants into online live game.It will be our project.

Good luck with that.  Will it be on chess.com and or similar sites? Stand alone site? tyia

• #297
neverherebefore wrote:
50Mark wrote:

This variant haven't related to chessplus.com.

We have plan to actualize our two chess variants into online live game.It will be our project.

Good luck with that.  Will it be on chess.com and or similar sites? Stand alone site? tyia

Actually we are glad if a certain site could feature these variants (especially FE chess).We also try to merge in one site open source code.Another option is to create stand alone site.

The third variant seems interesting and currently in trial.

You are welcome to feature these variants.I will subscribe to try it.Inform me if you make it.

• #298

dxe6

• #299

Martin0   vs   50Mark

• #300

Martin0   vs   50Mark

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