Psychologic (McGoohan - cobra91)

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27. Re3?

xxdragonxxyz

guys ,you know how difficult it is to checkmate your opponents king.even if you get the king in a check with no escape you can still say no ,when he wants to capture your king.the king has to be in a double check with no escape except for one square you can reject him from going to,to checkmate in this variant

 

cobra91

27...Rg2?

cobra91
xxdragonxxyz wrote:

guys ,you know how difficult it is to checkmate your opponents king.even if you get the king in a check with no escape you can still say no ,when he wants to capture your king.the king has to be in a double check with no escape except for one square you can reject him from going to,to checkmate in this variant

Kings are never actually captured, so there is never an opportunity to reject an attempted capture of a king. This means that if a position represents checkmate in standard chess, it also represents checkmate in Psychologic. In fact, there are actually more legal checkmates in Psychologic than in standard chess, due to a rule which states something like, "If a player has only one legal move, and this move is then rejected by his opponent, then that player loses automatically [by 'pseudo-checkmate']."

xxdragonxxyz

but this doesnt make any sense.in normal chess a piece is threatened when it is attacked by an other piece.in psycholigic you have to do this with atleast to pieces to actually threaten the piece.same will be with kings ,if they are attacked once they aren't actually threatened ,because you can say no to the capture of the king

cobra91

Yes, but kings differ significantly from the other pieces; unlike rooks, pawns, etc, kings can never be captured. They can obviously be checked and checkmated, but check and checkmate are not the same as ordinary piece threats (a 'check' must always be removed immediately, while 'checkmate' always ends the game immediately). 

xxdragonxxyz

but in psychologic a check only is a real one,when the king is attacked twice.it makes no sense ,if it wouldnt be like that

xxdragonxxyz

but well not all variants have to make sense

McGoohan

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/psychologic-amazing-chess-variant?page=2

AnnChess2

#40 Feb 21, 2017

There are three ways to win: 

1. You have two checkmates  , you make one, if it gets rejected , you make another.

2. You make a move(and it was accepted) that is not a checkmate by ordinary chess rules but one that leaves your opponent with single response. He has to play that single response and you reject it. Since your opponent doesn't have any other move to make, you win.

3.Your opponent resignes.

McGoohan
cobra91 wrote:

27...Rg2?

I reject Rg2

cobra91

27...Nxc2

McGoohan

28. Re2?

cobra91

28...Ne3?

McGoohan

29. Kd2?

cobra91

29...N3c4+?

McGoohan

30. Kc1?

cobra91

30...Nd6?

McGoohan

31. Kd2?

Martin0

The game so far (I was curious of the position):

 

cobra91
Martin0 wrote:

The game so far (I was curious of the position):

[diagram of game]

Good to see. Maybe there'd be more people following this if I (or McGoohan) was posting diagrams with each move. The problem is that I've tried to save time by just using a spare set to track the position in 3d, without ever having to reassemble it. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, it occurs to me that McGoohan has likely done the same thing.