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gabrielconroy

Obviously meaning isn't handed down to mankind from Mt Olympus, and nor does it remain fixed throughout time.

 

"Meaning is use".

Hurrican3

and my favourite sentence:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

http://buffaloremix.ytmnd.com/

bigpoison
goldendog wrote:
bigpoison wrote:

Tell me, TheGrobe, where have you heard anyone use the word decadent other than on television?  Pervasive, bah!  The only time it's used is in history books and on television, in my experience.


 I have it on good authority that this word is also seen in chess forums.


Do you mean in forums other than this one?  In what context?

goldendog

Actually BP, it was tongue in cheek. The word appears where people use words. Try googling the newsgroups for the word. There will be found a ton of usage, including discussions similar to ours here.

Decadent food is food for the self-indulgent.  Anyone have a problem with this usage?

TheOldReb

Is a nympho considered decadent ?  Smile

crisy

In the film 'Cabaret' Sally Bowles (the Liza Minelli character) describes the nightclub where she works as 'divine decadence' ...

TheGrobe

"But in this ever changing world in which we live in"

bigpoison
goldendog wrote:

Actually BP, it was tongue in cheek. The word appears where people use words. Try googling the newsgroups for the word. There will be found a ton of usage, including discussions similar to ours here.

Decadent food is food for the self-indulgent.  Anyone have a problem with this usage?


Yes, I have a problem with that particular usage.  How can food be decadent?  How can it decline?

I understand that language is not static, yet the root has to mean something, doesn't it?  McDonalds would have us believe that decadent means rich, sugary, and fattening.  It does not.  Decadence is a falling apart--so I guess it would work with some kind of crumbly cake;)

bigpoison
Reb wrote:

Is a nympho considered decadent ? 


Heck no!

TheGrobe

I don't think that's quite accurate Paul, the intent of the sentence is that it is "in" the Topics, not the forums.  "Topics I have posted in the forums" would seem to imply only topics that you started, not participated in.  "Topics in which I have posted" is probably the ideal formulation, although "Topics I have posts in" is also sufficient to get the point across.

TheGrobe
paul211 wrote:
I don't think that's quite accurate Paul, the intent of the sentence is that it is "in" the Topics, not the forums.  "Topics I have posted in the forums" would seem to imply only topics that you started, not participated in.  "Topics in which I have posted" is probably the ideal formulation, although "Topics I have posts in" is also sufficient to get the point across.

I think that the wording of :"topics that I have posted in" has a larger extension than "topics I have started", it actually includes both in my opinion.

Perhaps a better alternative would be "topics I have replied to" as being more accurate or specific.


So do I, it was the inference that the "in" referred to "in the forums" that I thought restricted it.  Also, by my interpretation "Topics I've replied to" seems to exclude those you've started.

kissinger

Many people enjoy playing chess in the library where it is quiet, and reference books are available if grammar questions etc arise.....  me smart, me post on chess.com......just thinking outloud here...........

redwood
That's because you're from the UK. In the U.S., the common way to express this would be the former. In the UK, the latter would be common.
TheGrobe

Common, perhaps, but not proper.

redwood
Isn't it proper how the people speak? Langauges change you know. Prescriptive grammar books aren't the end all.
TheGrobe

Common usage has to become pretty pervasive, though, before it's an established and accepted part of the language.  I think this is probably a case that qualifies, although when it comes to ending sentences with prepositions I still prefer not to.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Why has nobody yet brought up Winston Churchill?

artfizz
TheGrobe wrote: Common usage has to become pretty pervasive, though, before it's an established and accepted part of the language.  I think this is probably a case that qualifies, although when it comes to ending sentences with prepositions I still prefer not to.

I prefer not too.

Lokaz

Aw...please don't tell me you'll outlaw double negatives!

I don't not not want that to not not happen! Well, that's actually a quintuple negative...

TheGrobe
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Why has nobody yet brought up Winston Churchill?


I think you meant to ask why no-one has yet brought Winston Churchill up.