Just want to interject that my Oatmeal is entirely possible! (also Martin, not sure you realize, but my name used to be pawpatrol, so you know who I am).
Also, Martin is a tournament director and I have played in his otb tournaments and will be playing in another one of them this month.
Just want to interject that my Oatmeal is entirely possible! (also Martin, not sure you realize, but my name used to be pawpatrol, so you know who I am).
Sorry, not sure why I posted that as ImpossibleOatmeal; maybe it just sounded cooler in my head. 
You guys are talking about the fact that it's illegal to have tools on your person that can help you for OTB play at OTB games, and extending that to playing over the internet. Having a chess book in the same room, be it on a shelf or right next to you. From reading these boards, I'm pretty sure I can say with confidence that guys who play at your level use engines to study chess. - does this imply that it would be against the rules to play chess over the internet on the same computer where your engine software resides?
Using an engine to assist in a game in progress is not allowed here. Having an engine on the computer you use to play here is fine, as long as you aren't using it to help you in your games. But, BarefootPlayer would probably consider that illegal based on his previous arguments.
I just spent the last few minutes searching for the "rules" here, or a complete definition of what C.c considers cheating. I did find a few relavent links biu I'm not sure if I found the 'rule book'. I know it's a noob request and I appologize for that, but would you mind posting a link?
Do the rules here for live chess really allow for the use of a real board along side the virtual board displayed by the site/app?
Oh - and BTW, one of the C.c FAQ links that I found here that discussed the rules did directly state that it is cheating to use any outside help at all - So this precludes the genius alien assistance idea!
This is probably the link you found but it pretty much covers it.
https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444879-cheaters-cheating-what-you-need-to-know
Though, there have been some discussions in the past on some of the wording used that doesn't make everything cut and dry.
Just want to interject that my Oatmeal is entirely possible! (also Martin, not sure you realize, but my name used to be pawpatrol, so you know who I am).
Sorry, not sure why I posted that as ImpossibleOatmeal; maybe it just sounded cooler in my head.
lol so it does. It's a different kind of mystery than PossibleOatmeal.
@Taulmaril,
(1) I was born here in the US and I and I am older than most people who post here.
And I since I have never lost my citizenship, it also means that I've been a US citizen longer than most of the posters here.
(2) The "guilty until proven innocent" concept is a misonception at best, at worst, a lie.
Owning a working machine gun in the US is illegal; so is owning many drugs. It does matter what you intend to do with these items, it is still illegal to own them. The US does not have to prove what they intention is or was, just that fact that on has them can send a person to prison for years, decades, or even life.
In chess, the punishments are, on the whole, less severe. But you still cannot have a tablet, a cell phone, a PC, a chess engine, and other things next to you in an OTB game, even if you never intend to use them. It is still illegal to possess them and you can be kicked out of the tournament without proof you were going to use them.
Years ago, a player by the name of Neumann won a substational amount of money at the World Open. It was suspected he was cheating with large earphones attached over his ears. The TD's demanded to examine what was being pumped into his ears. He declined. Based on this, and some chess problems he could not solve, he was kicked out the tournament and forfieted his prize fund.
Did the USCF "prove" that Neumann cheated? No. Did Neumann have anything on him that could be considered illegal at that time? Unknown.
But he was kicked out.
I think it was last year that a GM (I think it was Kamsky) that was forced to forfeit a game becuase his cell phone rang. Did his cell phone give him an advantage when it rang. Probably not. But he was forced to lose the game as he had a phone.
I do not necessarily advocate such a thinking pattern. I am only interpreting what is written in the rules of chess.
(3) It is entirely possible to analyze a position without moving pieces. I can do when I am trying to figure out my next move in an OTB game, and so do many players. It is the word found in books, magazines, newspaper to describe the process a player can see moves in advance, and make judgements on those moves and the resulting positions. What verb would you prefer me to use?
@Barefoot_Player You might not remember saying this but here is my take: Citizenship bestow no right to make judgment in and of itself; what you are trying to disprove as a lie happens to be "Innocent until Proven Guilty" and not the other way around. That while a law specify that carrying contraband, per se, is in breach of the said law, it does not preclude that the investigation officer was lying; that the witness has picked from the line the wrong guy at the police station and so on, hence the due process warrants that the prosecution prove beyond reasonable doubt that the suspect is indeed the guilty one. Regards
I just spent the last few minutes searching for the "rules" here, or a complete definition of what C.c considers cheating. I did find a few relavent links biu I'm not sure if I found the 'rule book'. I know it's a noob request and I appologize for that, but would you mind posting a link?
Do the rules here for live chess really allow for the use of a real board along side the virtual board displayed by the site/app?
Oh - and BTW, one of the C.c FAQ links that I found here that discussed the rules did directly state that it is cheating to use any outside help at all - So this precludes the genius alien assistance idea!
This is probably the link you found but it pretty much covers it.
https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444879-cheaters-cheating-what-you-need-to-know
Though, there have been some discussions in the past on some of the wording used that doesn't make everything cut and dry.
The Support page has also been reorganised: now see https://support.chess.com/article/648-what-do-i-need-to-know-about-fair-play-on-chess-com
You are responding to a forum from five years ago??
Your previous posts were sets of rambling sentences, chaotic, jumbled, misinformed, and tiresome. This one is no exception.
I’m not sure if English is your first language, if you a suffering from a brain injury, a drug habit, or if you are a “Sovereign Citizen” who seem to believe if they confuse people, they will win their case by default.
I’m giving one more chance to redeem yourself. Please provide clarification here.
“Citizenship bestow no right to make judgment in and of itself” What are you trying to say here?
“That while a law specify that carrying contraband, per se, is in breach of the said law, ...” What law are you talking about??
If you choose to present your muddied thinking in your next correspondence with me, it will be also be the last one to me as I am already inclined to make you the first person I place a block on.
I just spent the last few minutes searching for the "rules" here, or a complete definition of what C.c considers cheating. I did find a few relavent links biu I'm not sure if I found the 'rule book'. I know it's a noob request and I appologize for that, but would you mind posting a link?
Do the rules here for live chess really allow for the use of a real board along side the virtual board displayed by the site/app?
Oh - and BTW, one of the C.c FAQ links that I found here that discussed the rules did directly state that it is cheating to use any outside help at all - So this precludes the genius alien assistance idea!