New TOS - anyone read it yet?

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autobunny

https://www.chess.com/agreement

Just in last month! 

As the resident unsolicited solicitor, the bunny feels it is his duty to point out that there will be a clamp down on non sequitur humor.  *Gulp*

You agree to not use the Service to:

post any comments, text, messages, or links in the forums or any public comments that is off topic or irrelevant to the purpose and content of the original content, game, article, blog, or forum topic;

autobunny

Were these changes announced somewhere? Were we all just blissfully unaware? Or did something sneaky happen? 

llama44

Until they do something about a kids posting nonsense in off topic I wont begin to take the forums seriously. Until then it's my playground as much as it's theirs.

giancz91

I knew nothing about this.

The rule you evidenced would be very good for bots and IA, but it's not best for humans. It kills human conversation. I hope it won't be applied.

autobunny
llama44 wrote:

Until they do something about a kids posting nonsense in off topic I wont begin to take the forums seriously. Until then it's my playground as much as its theirs.

They do have this section but no way to id kids, so unless the kids admit to it... 

https://www.chess.com/agreement#minors_and_children

autobunny
giancz91 wrote:

I knew nothing about this.

The rule you evidenced would be very good for bots and IA, but it's not best for humans. It kills human conversation. I hope it won't be applied.

They apparently reserve the right to change TOS without notice and apply it at their discretion. Nobody's safe. 

llama44
autobunny wrote:
llama44 wrote:

Until they do something about a kids posting nonsense in off topic I wont begin to take the forums seriously. Until then it's my playground as much as its theirs.

They do have this section but no way to id kids, so unless the kids admit to it... 

https://www.chess.com/agreement#minors_and_children

I'm not talking about banning kids, I'm talking about making the forums about chess instead of nonsense.

Anyway, it's not so hard to figure out which members are kids.

 - cartoon avatar
 - posts 1 or 2 sentences at time (at most)
 - limited or no grammar, punctuation
 - profile talking about school or bullying

autobunny
llama44 wrote:
autobunny wrote:
llama44 wrote:

Until they do something about a kids posting nonsense in off topic I wont begin to take the forums seriously. Until then it's my playground as much as its theirs.

They do have this section but no way to id kids, so unless the kids admit to it... 

https://www.chess.com/agreement#minors_and_children

I'm not talking about banning kids, I'm talking about making the forums about chess instead of nonsense.

Anyway, it's not so hard to figure out which members are kids.

 - cartoon avatar
 - posts 1 or 2 sentences at time (at most)
 - limited or no grammar, punctuation
 - profile talking about school or bullying

What they're saying is there must be an adult on site held liable for any kid on site.  Maybe we'll see the Age checks used on old naughty games. 

autobunny
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

  I like the part about Registration.....that should help keep some of the trolls out of here.

What data is collected? 

toteluis

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/new-tos-anyone-read-it-yet#comment-48006820

 

Martin_Stahl
autobunny wrote:

https://www.chess.com/agreement

Just in last month! 

As the resident unsolicited solicitor, the bunny feels it is his duty to point out that there will be a clamp down on non sequitur humor.  *Gulp*

You agree to not use the Service to:

post any comments, text, messages, or links in the forums or any public comments that is off topic or irrelevant to the purpose and content of the original content, game, article, blog, or forum topic;

 

That has always been in the TOS/community guidelines.

autobunny
Martin_Stahl wrote:
autobunny wrote:

https://www.chess.com/agreement

Just in last month! 

As the resident unsolicited solicitor, the bunny feels it is his duty to point out that there will be a clamp down on non sequitur humor.  *Gulp*

You agree to not use the Service to:

post any comments, text, messages, or links in the forums or any public comments that is off topic or irrelevant to the purpose and content of the original content, game, article, blog, or forum topic;

That has always been in the TOS/community guidelines.

Really? Don't remember anything even remotely close to that. Is the bunny that lost? 

Lord_Hammer

That was not always in the TOS. 

Martin_Stahl
Lord_Hammer wrote:

That was not always in the TOS. 

 

Yes, it has been. It's been there for as long as I've been a moderator and I started doing that in 2015.

Lord_Hammer

I can tell it is not enforced, even if it were there for that long, because the forums pretty much only have irrelevant crap. 

autobunny
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote:

That was not always in the TOS. 

Yes, it has been. It's been there for as long as I've been a moderator and I started doing that in 2015.

honestly then a lot of us should be banned including the bunny.  so no more fun unless we start our own topics and that too in off-topic?  irrelevant stuff doesn't have to be hurtful. ofc there will be those who are offended by anything and everything.  isn't that what a block is for?

this is no longer funny then

Martin_Stahl

From 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20150102062844/https://www.chess.com/legal#termsofservice

That may actually be pretty close to when it was originally put in the TOS. So, nothing new.

 

I will say, that is one of the least moderated parts of the guidelines, but if it gets out of hand, it still can be.

m_connors

It doesn't say we can't post anything off topic (there is an Off Topic forum, after all), it just says anything posted within a topic, blog etc must be "relevant" to the original post/subject. So if someone posts about a favourite opening, the topic should remain on openings and not veer into a discussion of favourite deserts. That just seems reasonable and natural. By the way, I really like cherry pie . . . happy.png

autobunny
Martin_Stahl wrote:

From 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20150102062844/https://www.chess.com/legal#termsofservice

That may actually be pretty close to when it was originally put in the TOS. So, nothing new.

I will say, that is one of the least moderated parts of the guidelines, but if it gets out of hand, it still can be.

looks like it was introduced at the end of 2014 - wow.  dumb bunny. 

this doesn't have it

https://web.archive.org/web/20141219054105/https://www.chess.com/legal

autobunny
m_connors wrote:

It doesn't say we can't post anything off topic (there is an Off Topic forum, after all), it just says anything posted within a topic, blog etc must be "relevant" to the original post/subject. So if someone posts about a favourite opening, the topic should remain on openings and not veer into a discussion of favourite deserts. That just seems reasonable and natural. By the way, I really like cherry pie . . .

means we can't discuss dragon fruit in a sicilian dragon thread anymore ...