Dead drawn???
Player trying to win on time in a dead draw position
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I don't play blitz so maybe I'm off base here but if you are playing blitz it's because short time is an important part of the game right? Whoever can analyze quicker is rewarded, right? So if you get to a position with both sides having only Kings and one rook, one side took longer to get there and will have to move quicker and may make an error because they did not analyze the position as quickly as their opponent. So, in my view the quicker analyzer deserves to play on and win on time. If I'm wrong, is it OK to win on time when you are clearly losing because you are down material? I think so since speed is the essence of blitz. What if you are a GM playing a long game and you are losing but you still win on time? Seems like winning on time is fair to me. Why play blitz if time isn't important?
Burke: Because in "simple draw" positions (think of KB vs KN), you are not really constrained by your thinking; you are limited by the time it takes you to move the piece, so it devolves into a metter of speedy hands than speedy thinking.
Daarzyn7: That does not answer the question: Then why play blitz at all? Besides some people are better endgame players than others. Carlsen and Karpov can win endgames against GM's in completely drawn positions, why not you or your opponent? You took longer to get into the drawn position than your opponent? Then it's on you to get out of it in the time contrainsts. It's part of the rules. Don't like the rules. Don't play blitz. I don't.
FIDE has no idea what they're doing. People should refuse to follow their stupid rules. As for the situation you describe, you can block the player. There seems to have been an influx of people who do this in rapid, which is ridiculous. It does make the game meaningless when they can do that. I think it harms chess.com. Blitz maybe but not in rapid.
Play with increment. Problem solved.
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FIDE has no idea what they're doing. People should refuse to follow their stupid rules. As for the situation you describe, you can block the player. There seems to have been an influx of people who do this in rapid, which is ridiculous. It does make the game meaningless when they can do that. I think it harms chess.com. Blitz maybe but not in rapid.
If you messed up and are low on time in a no increment game, that's the same as if you messed up and are low on material. If you're up material you try to win, right? So why not if you're up on the clock?
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"If you're up material you try to win, right? So why not if you're up on the clock?"
++ Yes, that is right. So it is stupid to play without increment.
All FIDE competitions are with increment: 3|2 blitz, 15|10 rapid, 90|30 classical etc.
Only online people still play without increment as in the previous century with analog clocks.
I thought to draw your opponent had to make replicate moves too? Not just one player?
Correct (ish), the game is drawn when the same position, for at least the third time (not necessarily by a repetition of moves) has just appeared. Positions are considered the same, if the same player has the move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares, and the possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same. Positions are not the same if a pawn that could have been captured en passant can no longer be captured in this manner. When a king or a rook is forced to move, it will lose its castling rights, if any, only after it is moved.
Sources FIDE handbook Laws of Chess and chess.com how do draws work