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Guys I'm Just Kidding 💀

Uh guys no religion or politics btw remember

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I meant John

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We all know that honch and chomper downvoted the NMs comment lol

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Ultimately God is an explanation for everything, and so the laws and patterns of nature are Gods doing. You could simply say "that is just the way nature is". But on a more visceral level, isn't your actual reason that you just feel instinctively there is something wrong with it, and no one can tell you otherwise? i.e. evolution instilled in you the instinct for successful reproduction, and aversion toward acts which would subvert that. So do you even need to bring God into it? I don't think you do. That feeling is what makes you straight, and if you didn't feel that aversion you would not be straight.

You don't need God to explain why you find mucus disgusting except in the most absolute sense.

On the other hand... the moment we do bring God into it, we have to bring everything else along for the ride - such as the fact that 98% of the males here above age 15 have looked at internet pr0n in the last... few weeks, probably. And once you bring all that extra stuff along for the ride... your argument against gays gets alot weaker, since it's balanced out by such broad corruption and perversion everywhere you are just up to your eyeballs in it no matter where you look.

This isn't a defense of gays per se, more of a qualification. It sort of irritates me when people bring God into this conversation without bringing other things along for the ride.

Because in Hebrew Adam means "first man" and was intended to be much more allegorical than people interpret it as today, i.e. it'd be more accurate to interpret it as referring to "the cavemen" or "ancient men" than some specific individual. Then there's the fact Genesis was passed by word of mouth through tribes over millennia until it finally was written down, then got translated from one language to the next... 6 languages and 5,000 years later the meaning, whatever it is or was, is not obvious unless you're paying attention. And in some sense its meaning may have been refined through this evolutionary process as well. 
The idea that books were to always be taken factually and literally didn't really even arise until the scientific revolution.
It's sort-of like an opinion piece, but more since it's the kind which can be thought to be true on principle. I know that men emerged out of nature at some point, that can be inferred... I know it was a mistake, it was contrary to the original design, because I can see how destructive the consequences have been... I know we couldn't return to nature - we're separated from it permanently, because we would die if we tried... we lack the survival skills. You could say there is a sword between man and the garden where he can no longer return to it. etc.
It's like a myth that has some very real meaning connected with it. That's how it should be read.

There is no "proof against God existing" in any empirical sense, if you believe that you are very confused I'm afraid. It's not even possible for such a thing to exist, God transcends the universe, how could something empirical within the universe ever prove what does or does not transcend it? That would violate the boundary between the mundane and the transcendent.
Such a thing has not "kind of mostly sort-of" been proven, either. No progress has been and can ever be made on that front.

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You don't have a rational argument you have an attitude.

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That's basically my feeling on it but you can disagree.

Isn't there a site rule that religious and political debates are not allowed? All this has nothing to do with chess.

This topic is both silly and sad.

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How do you know something cannot come from nothing? How do you know the universe did come from nothing? The currently accepted scientific theory of the Big Bang is not something coming from nothing it is the rapid expansion of a highly dense ball of matter into the universe as we know it. To say that the universe cannot come from nothing is an example of special pleading[Religous post removed; DS]There is no reason for any of us to exist, but we do by pure randomness. After billions of years and almost a septillion planets, it is not surprising that life would arise. This is basically guaranteed if the multiverse theory is true. It is perfectly ok not to know everything, but to attribute it to a supernatural being without anything else because of that is not. Abiogenesis could be the source of life, or it could be something completely different. We have seen the five main components of nucleobases on asteroids which provides evidence for this.

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