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Daniel_Pi
tubebender wrote: This would not stand up in a court of law. Am I wrong? Could some lawyers weigh in on this, please? Maybe if what you say happens in a 5 minute or 1 minute game, there could be a case to be argued. But slower controls, I doubt it.

It'd probably be enough evidence. Probabilistically, matching a computer engine's top choice for every move in a game is orders of magnitude less than 1%. That's easily beyond preponderance of the evidence (in a civil case) or beyond a reasonable doubt (in a criminal case). There may be a question of admissibility, but I assume that's not the point of your question. Cool

hurla64
JustinJ_FairfieldU wrote:

The point here isn't that people are nasty and that we have to deal with them.  That's life and we all know it.  But the fact is that chess.com has, in my experience, a lot more nasty people then their competitors.  By in large I think its because chess.com has no enforced policy against threats, bullying, etc.  Other places do.

This is exactly it. Every site has nasty people. But if Site A has a lot more nasty people that Site B or Site C, why would I bother to become a paying member of Site A? If chess.com  took a tougher stance against cheating and verbal abuse, it would reduce these problems and attract a larger community. So it's in the interests of both the site and the members.

hurla64
Daniel_Pi wrote:
I am sick of whiny people not able to deal with things anymore. Someone was rude to you? Deal with it. That's life. 

Complaining about problems like verbal abuse and cheating isn't "whining". It's about the integrity of the site. I am not convinced about its integrity and therefore not inclined to pay for subsciption. I'm sure there are plenty more like me.  If they cleaned up the site, it would be better for everyone.

whoispaulmiller

Go to another site then I guess. You're not paying and you don't want to. Why bother going on about it? I think this site is great. 

Aighearach

I've been playing online chess since the 90s, this site does have a lot of nastiness.

People who say, "don't ever complaign, if you don't like it leave" well gosh golly gee, did you consider that that attitude would leave the site with no chance at all to improve? Nothing in the world would ever improve; anything not perfect would have to be abandoned or destroyed, to start over from scratch. I like the idea of at least giving the site a chance to make improvements.

They're not interested in that, they don't see any profit in having happier users, but that could actually change over time.