Can YOU Mate with BBK/K? (with a Twist)

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1e4c6_O-1

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black to move

i want to see if this is possible bc stockfish says -7.4ish but im not sure if you can actually mate white

someone smart pls help

dah_happyh0ppyh0rsi3

bruh no

HerakIes

no you cant

HerakIes

even a 1100 knows so

HerakIes

Even in the corner the king has a square to move

Miniongolf

you can't because both bishops are the same colour

JackRoach

No.

1e4c6_O-1

ok

but then why does stockfish give -7.4ish?

Chushoudelu

why does stockfish go wrong so much?

JackRoach
1e4c6_O-1 wrote:

ok

but then why does stockfish give -7.4ish?

Look at this: Stockfish says white is winning, but this is technically a draw.

 

dah_happyh0ppyh0rsi3
1e4c6_O-1 wrote:

ok

but then why does stockfish give -7.4ish?

it takes forever for stockfish to see 50 moves ahead

Miniongolf

yes

stockfish can easily see the +3 material advantage white has, but can't exactly calculate all the way to a drawn position

Same with K v Q positions not always showing forced mate, but rather +50 or some other large number

reasonably_happy
JackRoach написал:

Look at this: Stockfish says white is winning, but this is technically a draw.

Draw only if it's black to move tho. Otherwise the king is cut off and zugzwang is inbound.

On the topic, yeah, engines are dumb like that sometimes. Doesn't mean it's a forced win even if the engine evaluates your position like that.