bot rating vs human rating

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Yafuso wrote:
I recently started playing chess again (learned as a child) to get good enough to beat my dad who I remember playing a lot with various friends over the years when I was a kid.

I can beat the 1000-1200 bots so my main question is does this correlate with a human rated around 1000-1200? Is this overzealous thinking on my part?



I can beat bots with 1500 rating even though I don't have quite a high rating in chess.

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I think the best bot to train against would be Maximum.

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I think the esiast bot is the Li Bot. I played with it and it blundered a bishop on move 10. Good training bot that should be in coach area

Avatar of qepx

So true!! I played a 14 round match with Antonio-BOT (1500). I'm rated around 800. I ended up with 4.5 points (with antonio having 9.5). I shouldn't be beating him this much being 700 points lower.

Avatar of LMA1969

There are some good comments here. I started playing again recently after 20 years off. I'm currently rated 675 and can defeat Nelson (1300) easily. On 10 minute games against humans I struggle to win against a player of the same rating as myself. I'm not sure the bots are useful.

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Rated Unknown and I’m not high enough to mention it I don’t really know what the ELO is constructed but learn something new everyday
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ELO is what ? Won loss Ratio ? How is it determined Not that I care play to Win
Avatar of whyareallthenamestaken777

in game review it will say the estimated elo of the bot, and it’s much lower than its actual rating, like I beat frankenisla (1800) and I’m rated 586 in rapid

Avatar of St_Matilda

I play A LOT OF BOTS and I'm pretty sure the elo rating inflation of bots is around 300-500 points. My online rapid elo is 800-900. But the 1200 bots are what I play when I just want to win, and the 1500 bots are what I play when I want to be challenged (but still have a chance at a win). 
It's a bit of a bummer because I always get excited about beating a 1500 bot but I know that's not an accurate rating estimate. When I play 800-900 rated people online I'm always surprised at how 'strong' they are by comparison.

That said, they are great for trying out openings and will play a bit of theory with you -- so good for practice. Also great if you have anxiety about playing people or if you may be interrupted (since there are no time controls).

My advice if you choose to play bots is to play the strongest one you can. Then at least you'll be learning how to win!

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I’m a 700 elo chess player and I beat a 2300 elo chess bot

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NEETHUDAS123寫道:

I think the esiast bot is the Li Bot. I played with it and it blundered a bishop on move 10. Good training bot that should be in coach area

Nah it must be Martin

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mishailu寫道:
Yafuso wrote:
I recently started playing chess again (learned as a child) to get good enough to beat my dad who I remember playing a lot with various friends over the years when I was a kid.
I can beat the 1000-1200 bots so my main question is does this correlate with a human rated around 1000-1200? Is this overzealous thinking on my part?

I can beat bots with 1500 rating even though I don't have quite a high rating in chess.

I would say a 1000-1200 elo chess bot is about 700 elo human

Avatar of Alchessblitz

The problem is there are no ranking against bots from chess.com.

I mean for example if I take the Chessmaster program in rapid (yes because normally for it to be valid we have to play with time and the bots are not obliged to play 1s or 2s per move) I can manage to win one game against Natalie.bot (2300) but into ranking against bots from Chessmater just being 2000 is really very difficult.

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I feel that bots on chess.com do not reflect real players very accurately, I am 500 rated and have defeated an 1800 bot. the bot will always see a blunder where a real player with that rating may not, they will play very well and then make a massive blunder completely randomly.

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Ok

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Ok

Avatar of yerdeniz144

a beat1800 bot my rating 200

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I beat a bot on 2200 elo even my daily rating is 924
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I am 480 rapid, I can beat the 1600 bots about 50 percent od the time. I can beat Nelson (1300 bot) 90 percent of the time, I struggle mightily against 1900 bots about no telling the percentage, beat it once and rarely try. It really depends on the 1800 bots on the style of play. Lorenzo bot wrecks my world. I don’t know why, but it is good practice

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I dare say that Lorenzo bot is harder than other 1800 bots. I saw lorenzo bot defeat an actual 1800 elo player. However he then played a second game, took his time and then won handily against Lorenzo. It does of course matter on level of effort. Bot games are not timed, and so if you are taking 10 minites or 45 makes a world of difference