When to resign - Etiquette - An honest appeal

Wow.  What a long thread on here.   Coming from personal experience in OTB games as a Candidate Master, even if it seems that one is losing, I don't think one should resign unless there is completely no hope for redemption.  Also, there are factors that one has to take into account when it seems that you are losing (or at least at a significant disadvantage):

[1]  Any potential attacking chances or crazy tactics the disadvantaged side has.  If you have a good attack going, the person with the advantage could be intimidated by it to the point that they give away free material just to stop the attack.  

[2]   How long have the players been playing for? (If the person with the advantage has been playing for hours, the person with the advantage could be fatigued or burned out to the point that they can easily screw up their advantage).

[3]  How complex is the position?  (The more complex the position, the easier it is for the person with the substantial advantage to screw it up and hand it over to the other side).

I totally agree with this. Anytime you refuse to resign in a lost position where you're down material with no compensation you're basically telling your opponent you don't think he's good enough to finish you off.  What opponent wouldn't feel offended? OK, maybe an exception would be if your opponent is rated 200-300 points lower in an OTB tournament with prize money at stake you could play on and maybe come back and win but if he's rated higher or about equal it's really time to give it up. At the club I play at players typically resign even in Blitz games if the game appears lost. I remember one time an opponent became irritated with me for not resigning when I had a bad position but was only down a pawn.

1. WHY DO U CARE

2. THE PERSON WHO MADE IT LEFT

I think the decision to resign or not is completely the decision of each player and we should respect their decision.. as for me, i resign all the time to show respect to my opponent.. but i did won several game checkmating my opponent with 2 queens.. well.. it's fun

The etiquette of resigning really only makes sense for intermediate and advanced players.  Beginners and novices mostly have not yet learned the skills needed to accurately assess whether or not their game is hopeless.  Many don't even realize that K+R can force mate against a lone K.  And even if beginners correctly understand that their position is lost, they still should not resign because they need to practice defending inferior positions, and they need to learn technique by observing the winning side's moves.  Ask any chess coach.

We see so many of these threads by low rated players demanding that their opponents resign in inferior positions.  I think the reason is mainly psychological.  Everyone wants to feel the respect offered by an opponent when the opponent resigns.  And it is common to the see this at levels above 1600 Elo.  But respect must be earned.  GMs, masters, and experts have earned that respect with their titles and high ratings.  Beginners have not yet earned that respect (although politeness should apply at all levels).  It's somewhat cute when beginners demand respect, in the same way that it's cute when a little boy puts on daddy's shoes and pretends to be grown up.  I say "somewhat cute" because it's also annoying to hear a beginner complain about things they have not had time to learn about through experience.  But it's completely understandable that everyone wants to feel respected.

Good

Well, I've read the first post and I honestly think the OP is trolling. Complaining because an opponent didn't lose a lost position. As much as I try to understand it, it's just beyond me.

     Yes, Warnaki has started a few similar forums: people insist on launching speculative attacks, people don't play the openings he prefers, people don't resign when he thinks he is winning. Then he boasts about blocking all these "bullying" players.

     It doesn't matter if he pouts about people not respecting his "superior" standards of play, or if he blocks them when they don't. Arguing endlessly that he is right, others ought to follow his example, and those who disagree with him are too stupid, foolish or stubborn to "see the light" just marks him as an annoying troll.

I see.

+1

Honestly I understand the frustration but it actually helps you in chess because it helps you learn how to convert positions.

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I would never resign against some 1100-rated player. Because that is too close to my own rating and I suck at chess and can blunder a queen at any minute. It's never over until it's over.

If I play a 2200-rated player in a tournament on the other hand I will throw in the towel a lot sooner. Different level.

the worst thing is playing daily games with a winning end game with Mate in 10 moves. your opponent insists on making one move every 24 hrs. 11 days later you get the obvious victory.

11 days is close to nothing when you play a daily game. The game is supposed to last for months.

By the way, this is an old topic, resurrected by a notorious spammer (ariajune), possibly a spambot.

He's not wrong . You bumped the thread by posting an irrelevant chess position which I am sure nobody cared to look at .

Bruh you literally resigned on your last game you lost