why are bots easier to beat than humans with a similar rating?
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I started playing through the bots recently and managed to get up to 1100 without help and 1800 with hints+take backs, but struggle against humans in the 400-500 range. Does anyone know why this might be?
Mar 6, 2022
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Yep I also asked the same question to myself. Probably because bots are made that way. I think there rating is 600 less. So if the bot is 900, it means it is 300
Mar 9, 2022
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The boys are highly over rated. Once you start playing the intermediate bots with out help they will not be so easy to beat.
Mar 9, 2022
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I think below 1500 bots are overrated. But I think bots with 1500+ ratings are similar to humans with the same rating.
Mar 9, 2022
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ShadowCellen wrote:
Yep I also asked the same question to myself. Probably because bots are made that way. I think there rating is 600 less. So if the bot is 900, it means it is 300
For bots 1600 and lower, I think there is some truth to that.
Mar 9, 2022
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Bots aren't rated correctly.
There's also the strategy of just waiting around for them to blunder material to you for no reason.
Bot ratings are not real ratings. It won't go up when they win, and won't go down when they lose. Those "ratings" are nothing more than a number written there - based on a gut feeling of a programmer.
It would have been just as easy, probably easier, to give them a real rating that changes over time. Why chess.com chose not to do it is a mystery.
Mar 10, 2022
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magipi wrote:
Bot ratings are not real ratings. It won't go up when they win, and won't go down when they lose. Those "ratings" are nothing more than a number written there - based on a gut feeling of a programmer.
Probably not a gut feeling. Probably purposefully rated much higher than they actually are to make chess less intimidating to new players.
Mar 10, 2022
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magipi wrote:
It would have been just as easy, probably easier, to give them a real rating that changes over time. Why chess.com chose not to do it is a mystery.
Chess.com used to have bots like this in live chess.
However a horde of pathetic people would farm them for rating points, which made the bot's ratings fluctuate a lot.
One strategy was to find a quick win the bot would often (or always) fall for, and then play it over and over. Sometimes these wins were shared in the forums so that others could abuse them. Another strategy was simply to play a bot rated much lower than you 100s of times.
ShadowCellen wrote:
Yep I also asked the same question to myself. Probably because bots are made that way. I think there rating is 600 less. So if the bot is 900, it means it is 300
I think the same.
My puzzles rating is 2300 but rapid rating is only 1500 now.
Mar 10, 2022
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llama51 wrote:
magipi wrote:
It would have been just as easy, probably easier, to give them a real rating that changes over time. Why chess.com chose not to do it is a mystery.
Chess.com used to have bots like this in live chess.
However a horde of pathetic people would farm them for rating points, which made the bot's ratings fluctuate a lot.
One strategy was to find a quick win the bot would often (or always) fall for, and then play it over and over. Sometimes these wins were shared in the forums so that others could abuse them. Another strategy was simply to play a bot rated much lower than you 100s of times.
Idk why they even did that, farming elo is pointless