1. d4 openings HURT/HEAL game - Chess Forums - Page 5

Myllion

Jul 13, 2025

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#81

ThrillerFan wrote:

ApplesAreSuperior wrote:

SirRM23Divergent wrote:

So how this works is there's a list of openings and in your post you can either HURT an opening by giving it -5 or HEAL an opening by giving it +5. (I'm going first as example)

If an opening gets to 0 points it's out and we keep going until there's one left, which is the winner. Each opening starts on 25 points.

Rules: no posting 2 or more times in a row, wait until someone else has posted to post again

I'm not a d4 player so if I miss any big openings, do tell and I'll add them in.

Openings: (alphabetical)

Benoni 25

Bogo-Indian 25

Catalan 25

Dutch 25

Grunfeld 25

King's Indian Defence 25

London 25

Nimzo Indian 25

Queen's Gambit Accepted 25

Queen's Gambit Declined 25

Queen's Indian Defence 25

Semi-Slav 25

Slav Defence 25

Trompowsky 25

You forgot about the ruy lopez and indian game

No he didn't - The Ruy Lopez is NOT a 1.d4 opening, and there is no such thing as the "Indian Game". You have the King's Indian Defense, Nimzo-Indian Defense, Queen's Indian Defense, etc., but there is no such thing as just the "Indian Game".

It's indian game after 1. d4 Nf6

exceptionalfork

Jul 13, 2025

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#82

Myllion wrote:

ThrillerFan wrote:

ApplesAreSuperior wrote:

SirRM23Divergent wrote:

So how this works is there's a list of openings and in your post you can either HURT an opening by giving it -5 or HEAL an opening by giving it +5. (I'm going first as example)

If an opening gets to 0 points it's out and we keep going until there's one left, which is the winner. Each opening starts on 25 points.

Rules: no posting 2 or more times in a row, wait until someone else has posted to post again

I'm not a d4 player so if I miss any big openings, do tell and I'll add them in.

Openings: (alphabetical)

Benoni 25

Bogo-Indian 25

Catalan 25

Dutch 25

Grunfeld 25

King's Indian Defence 25

London 25

Nimzo Indian 25

Queen's Gambit Accepted 25

Queen's Gambit Declined 25

Queen's Indian Defence 25

Semi-Slav 25

Slav Defence 25

Trompowsky 25

You forgot about the ruy lopez and indian game

No he didn't - The Ruy Lopez is NOT a 1.d4 opening, and there is no such thing as the "Indian Game". You have the King's Indian Defense, Nimzo-Indian Defense, Queen's Indian Defense, etc., but there is no such thing as just the "Indian Game".

It's indian game after 1. d4 Nf6

@ThrillerFan didn't word it properly, but what he meant is that the Indian Game always leads to something else. The Indian Game does exist, there's just no point in including it because it will always transpose into something like the Nimzo, Bogo etc. There's no point in including just the Indian Game.

exceptionalfork

Jul 13, 2025

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#83

Benko Gambit 15

Bogo-Indian 25

Catalan 30

Dutch 35

Grunfeld 25 (+5)

King's Indian Defence 30

Nimzo Indian 30

Queen's Gambit Accepted 25

Queen's Gambit Declined 20

Queen's Indian Defence 25

Semi-Slav 25

Torre Attack 25

Trompowsky 35

ThrillerFan

Jul 13, 2025

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#84

Myllion wrote:

ThrillerFan wrote:

ApplesAreSuperior wrote:

SirRM23Divergent wrote:

So how this works is there's a list of openings and in your post you can either HURT an opening by giving it -5 or HEAL an opening by giving it +5. (I'm going first as example)

If an opening gets to 0 points it's out and we keep going until there's one left, which is the winner. Each opening starts on 25 points.

Rules: no posting 2 or more times in a row, wait until someone else has posted to post again

I'm not a d4 player so if I miss any big openings, do tell and I'll add them in.

Openings: (alphabetical)

Benoni 25

Bogo-Indian 25

Catalan 25

Dutch 25

Grunfeld 25

King's Indian Defence 25

London 25

Nimzo Indian 25

Queen's Gambit Accepted 25

Queen's Gambit Declined 25

Queen's Indian Defence 25

Semi-Slav 25

Slav Defence 25

Trompowsky 25

You forgot about the ruy lopez and indian game

No he didn't - The Ruy Lopez is NOT a 1.d4 opening, and there is no such thing as the "Indian Game". You have the King's Indian Defense, Nimzo-Indian Defense, Queen's Indian Defense, etc., but there is no such thing as just the "Indian Game".

It's indian game after 1. d4 Nf6

No it's not. It requires more moves. Chess.com has this stupid idea that every position has an opening name when in truth, they aren't. 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 is NOT the "Sicilian Defense, French Variation". It is simply the Sicilian Defense. It can be a deferred Alapin (3.c3), a Taimanov (3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6), a Kan (3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 a6, along with other possibilities, like the Scheveningen or the Four Knights Sicilian.

Well, same thing goes for 1.d4 Nf6. 1.d4 Nf6 is NOT the Indian Defense. 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 is the NIMZO-Indian Defense, 3.Nf3 Bb4+ is the BOGO-Indian Defense, 3.Nf3 b6 is the QUEEN'S Indian Defense, 2...g6 3.Nc3 d5 is the GRUNFELD Defense (a.k.a. The Grunfeld Indian Defense), 3...Bg7 is the KING'S Indian Defense, etc.

There is no just flat out "Indian" Defense. 1...Nf6 does not always even lead to any type of Indian Defense. 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 d5 is the Queen's Gambit Declined. 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bg7 is the Torre Attack. 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 (what I play as White) is the Trompowsky Attack.

Instead of arguing with someone that has played chess for 42 years, studied chess for 30 years, has played over 3600 tournament games over the board, and is rated over 2000 over the board, maybe you should listen to more experienced players instead of arguing with them.

You arguing the Existence of the Indian Defense would be like me arguing ballet moves.

ThrillerFan

Jul 13, 2025

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#85

Benko Gambit 15

Bogo-Indian 25

Catalan 30

Dutch 35

Grunfeld 20 (-5)

King's Indian Defence 30

Nimzo Indian 30

Queen's Gambit Accepted 25

Queen's Gambit Declined 20

Queen's Indian Defence 25

Semi-Slav 25

Torre Attack 25

Trompowsky 35

AmericanChadAGC

Jul 13, 2025

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#86

ApplesAreSuperior wrote:

SirRM23Divergent wrote:

So how this works is there's a list of openings and in your post you can either HURT an opening by giving it -5 or HEAL an opening by giving it +5. (I'm going first as example)

If an opening gets to 0 points it's out and we keep going until there's one left, which is the winner. Each opening starts on 25 points.

Rules: no posting 2 or more times in a row, wait until someone else has posted to post again

I'm not a d4 player so if I miss any big openings, do tell and I'll add them in.

Openings: (alphabetical)

Benoni 25

Bogo-Indian 25

Catalan 25

Dutch 25

Grunfeld 25

King's Indian Defence 25

London 25

Nimzo Indian 25

Queen's Gambit Accepted 25

Queen's Gambit Declined 25

Queen's Indian Defence 25

Semi-Slav 25

Slav Defence 25

Trompowsky 25

You forgot about the ruy lopez and indian game

*face palm*

AmericanChadAGC

Jul 13, 2025

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#87

ThrillerFan wrote:

Benko Gambit 15

Bogo-Indian 25

Catalan 30

Dutch 35

Grunfeld 15 ( -5)

King's Indian Defence 30

Nimzo Indian 30

Queen's Gambit Accepted 25

Queen's Gambit Declined 20

Queen's Indian Defence 25

Semi-Slav 25

Torre Attack 25

Trompowsky 35

BRO DID BENONI GET COOKED?? NOOOOOOOOO!!

SuryaVS

Jul 14, 2025

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#88

Benko Gambit 10 (-5)
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35
Grunfeld 15
King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 25
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 25
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 35

ThrillerFan

Jul 14, 2025

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#89

Benko Gambit 10
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35
Grunfeld 10 (-5)
King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 25
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 25
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 35

AmericanChadAGC

Jul 14, 2025

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#90

Benko Gambit 10
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35
Grunfeld 5 ( -5)
King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 25
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 25
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 35

SuryaVS

Jul 15, 2025

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#91

Benko Gambit 10
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35
Grunfeld 0 (-5) OUT
King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 25
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 25
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 35

Honchkrowabcd

Jul 15, 2025

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#92

Benko Gambit 10
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35
Italian Game 30
King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 30 (+5)
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 25
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 35

ThrillerFan

Jul 15, 2025

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#93

Benko Gambit 10
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35

King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 30
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 25
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 40 (+5)

ThrillerFan

Jul 15, 2025

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#94

Post 96, this is d4 openings! GET THAT ITALIAN BS OUT OF THERE (Removed it in post 97, back to the list in 95 with the heals for posts 96 and 97.)

AmericanChadAGC

Jul 15, 2025

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#95

Benko Gambit 10 (+ 5)
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35

King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 30
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 25
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 45

AmericanChadAGC

Jul 15, 2025

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#96

100th post

AmericanChadAGC

Jul 15, 2025

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#97

SuryaVS wrote:

Benko Gambit 10
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35
Grunfeld 0 (-5) OUT
King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 25
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 25
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 35

bro grunfeld was already out

i eliminated it the post before, do something else lol

ThrillerFan

Jul 15, 2025

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#98

Benko Gambit 15
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35

King's Indian Defence 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 30
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defence 25
Semi-Slav 20 (-5)
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 40

Myllion

Jul 15, 2025

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#99

ThrillerFan wrote:

Myllion wrote:

ThrillerFan wrote:

ApplesAreSuperior wrote:

SirRM23Divergent wrote:

So how this works is there's a list of openings and in your post you can either HURT an opening by giving it -5 or HEAL an opening by giving it +5. (I'm going first as example)

If an opening gets to 0 points it's out and we keep going until there's one left, which is the winner. Each opening starts on 25 points.

Rules: no posting 2 or more times in a row, wait until someone else has posted to post again

I'm not a d4 player so if I miss any big openings, do tell and I'll add them in.

Openings: (alphabetical)

Benoni 25

Bogo-Indian 25

Catalan 25

Dutch 25

Grunfeld 25

King's Indian Defence 25

London 25

Nimzo Indian 25

Queen's Gambit Accepted 25

Queen's Gambit Declined 25

Queen's Indian Defence 25

Semi-Slav 25

Slav Defence 25

Trompowsky 25

You forgot about the ruy lopez and indian game

No he didn't - The Ruy Lopez is NOT a 1.d4 opening, and there is no such thing as the "Indian Game". You have the King's Indian Defense, Nimzo-Indian Defense, Queen's Indian Defense, etc., but there is no such thing as just the "Indian Game".

It's indian game after 1. d4 Nf6

No it's not. It requires more moves. Chess.com has this stupid idea that every position has an opening name when in truth, they aren't. 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 is NOT the "Sicilian Defense, French Variation". It is simply the Sicilian Defense. It can be a deferred Alapin (3.c3), a Taimanov (3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6), a Kan (3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 a6, along with other possibilities, like the Scheveningen or the Four Knights Sicilian.

Well, same thing goes for 1.d4 Nf6. 1.d4 Nf6 is NOT the Indian Defense. 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 is the NIMZO-Indian Defense, 3.Nf3 Bb4+ is the BOGO-Indian Defense, 3.Nf3 b6 is the QUEEN'S Indian Defense, 2...g6 3.Nc3 d5 is the GRUNFELD Defense (a.k.a. The Grunfeld Indian Defense), 3...Bg7 is the KING'S Indian Defense, etc.

There is no just flat out "Indian" Defense. 1...Nf6 does not always even lead to any type of Indian Defense. 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 d5 is the Queen's Gambit Declined. 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bg7 is the Torre Attack. 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 (what I play as White) is the Trompowsky Attack.

Instead of arguing with someone that has played chess for 42 years, studied chess for 30 years, has played over 3600 tournament games over the board, and is rated over 2000 over the board, maybe you should listen to more experienced players instead of arguing with them.

You arguing the Existence of the Indian Defense would be like me arguing ballet moves.

oh ok i didn't realise i was supposed to be basing opening names on your personal opinion instead of the names on chess.com

AmericanChadAGC

Jul 15, 2025

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#100

ThrillerFan wrote:

Benko Gambit 15
Bogo-Indian 25
Catalan 30
Dutch 35

King's Indian Defense 30
Nimzo Indian 30
Queen's Gambit Accepted 30
Queen's Gambit Declined 20
Queen's Indian Defense 25
Semi-Slav 15 (- 5)
Torre Attack 25
Trompowsky 40