Best move vs Excellent

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SMRafiq7 wrote:

How tf do i play bullet and blitz i suck

Just don’t play blitz and bullet, it ain’t good for improvement. Play rapid.

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you know that brilliant move is better than a great move right?

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a-m-a-z-i-n-g wrote:

you know that brilliant move is better than a great move right?

It isn't "better". It's a different thing.

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This is interesting

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DEEpanshu-SINgh13579 wrote:

This is interesting

If you are talking about the opening post, it's not "interesting", it's complete nonsense.

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comparing best and excellent, it must be best, nothing wins the best move. But, i believe we should compare great and best, right, great is the top engine move, so to best. So anybody here answering the new question, best and great, which is better?

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ChessUnicorn_CN wrote:

comparing best and excellent, it must be best, nothing wins the best move. But, i believe we should compare great and best, right, great is the top engine move, so to best. So anybody here answering the new question, best and great, which is better?

Chess.com calls a move "great" is it's the only good move.

So a "great move" is the best move when no other move is good.

The best thing to do is to ignore these empty labels.

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Cool

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Zidanefre wrote:

I got brilliant once. It was by mistake, as we all know

I've once got a brilliant, it was just a forced queen trade with my greedy, queen worshiping friend lol, it is my only one so far and I am still proud of it.

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DuckMcWack wrote:
Zidanefre wrote:

I got brilliant once. It was by mistake, as we all know

I've once got a brilliant, it was just a forced queen trade with my greedy, queen worshiping friend lol, it is my only one so far and I am still proud of it.

A "brilliant move" on chess.com is always a sacrifice, never just a queen trade. You probably didn't (and still don't) understand what was going on with that move.

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Excellent is almost as good as best, however they are both virtually the same.

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nklristic wrote:

Best move is better than excellent move. Though, there is a brilliant move (I never got it in any of my games ) which is better than best move. The way I understand it, brilliant move is assessed as better than "best" move after it is played. It probably has something to do with the depth in which you conclude the analysis, though I am really not sure how it is determined as brilliant precisely.

a brilliant move is a very good and extremely difficult piece sacrifice, it may or may not be the best move, as long as it keeps the evaluation nearly the same

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here are the definitions- brillliant (!!): a very good and hard to find sacrifice, great(!): the only move that doesnt lose a drawn position or draw a winning position and is hard to find, best(⭐): the top move of the engine, excellent(👍): almost as good as the best move, good(✅) a move that is solid but not that close to the best, book(📖): opening moves that have been played many times, inaccuracy(?!): a move that slightly worsens your position, mistake(?): a move that significantly worsens your position, miss(❌): a move that doesnt punish the opponents mistake blunder(??): a move that gives the engine diarrhoea because it throws the eval off a cliff, thats all

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Swen_0 wrote:

a brilliant move is a very good and extremely difficult piece sacrifice, it may or may not be the best move, as long as it keeps the evaluation nearly the same

Almost true. The real definition: a piece sacrifice that's good. It doesn't have to be "extremely difficult", obviously. For an engine, tactics are easy and obvious.

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Swen_0 wrote:

here are the definitions- brillliant (!!): a very good and hard to find sacrifice, great(!): the only move that doesnt lose a drawn position or draw a winning position and is hard to find, best(⭐): the top move of the engine, excellent(👍): almost as good as the best move, good(✅) a move that is solid but not that close to the best, book(📖): opening moves that have been played many times, inaccuracy(?!): a move that slightly worsens your position, mistake(?): a move that significantly worsens your position, miss(❌): a move that doesnt punish the opponents mistake blunder(??): a move that gives the engine diarrhoea because it throws the eval off a cliff, thats all

I've seen good moves that have dropped a forced win to a forced draw. Obviously not good and due to engine horizon effect.

A "miss" is often deliberate if a win is available via an easier route. Very often, if a player is in trouble they will deliberately leave a chance in a complex position knowing that they have a real chance of winning the difficult, tactical position. Likewise, the eval can often mis-evaluate a deliberate move as an error if the human, who can see further than the engine, goes for a simple win rather than a quicker one involving the need to make cifficult calculations.