can someone tell me where i messed up??
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I'd say your third moves looks a bit dodge. In Queen pawn games you often need to play c4, to add pressure to the centre. By playing 3.Nc3 you don't allow yourself this option.
Possible third moves could be 3.c4 (my preference) or maybe 3.e6
is the move to e6 really a good move and thanks for your assistance i see why the promotion of that could have waited to better my opening
Apr 4, 2008
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#4
It's hard to pin down to one move, but to me it seems that you send pieces out individually to accomplish things, instead of 2 or 3 working together (the Queen going after the King by herself, for example). This makes it easier for the opponent to chase you away.
I see this mistake a lot (because I'm guilty of the same thing)!
I did not like 15. Bxc4. (You opened a block line to your king) Whites 2 bishops then ran riot. 15. Bc1 would have been preferable, you would have had time to challenge the d file, while stopping the black king from escaping queen side from the knight pin had he castled king side. Does this make sense?
On the other hand, I was just stiding a game earlier today in which the first fourmoves were played exactly the same as in this game. The game was between two Grandmasters, although I can't remember which ones.
I meant the first three moves.
I'm not a master of openings, but it seems like while some dodgy stuff happened early, you still had some things going for you. On move 15 you lost your bishop to a pawn and let black get around their own peices. Since you likely want to learn I would say not to throw in the towel when the material is even-ish. Look deeper into clever moves and review every option if you have to.
haha yeah "mad..." it made sense..and thank you everyone for your input, i've gotten something to use out of every message...i appreciate all of you takin your time to help me out!!!
I agree 3.c4 made more sense. After 3.Nc3 your opponent also might have played 3...e6 and we have a Queen's Gambit except White didn't play c4. But where you went really wrong is you let your opponent gobble up your pawns. 8.g3? hung a pawn. 20.Bc1? hung another pawn. You can't do that against a good opponent. At that point I think your chances of recovery were getting slim. Notice how winning your a-pawn allowed your opponent's bishop to control the open d-file, and once his rook infiltrated on the d-file to your second rank you were more or less finished.
yes forests i see you're point..huge help thanks
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madpawn wrote: I did not like 15. Bxc4. (You opened a block line to your king) Whites 2 bishops then ran riot. 15. Bc1 would have been preferable, you would have had time to challenge the d file, while stopping the black king from escaping queen side from the knight pin had he castled king side. Does this make sense?
I agree completely. Taxman, we played a relatively equal game until move 15, where I gained a positional advantage. Whereas it might look like you ruined my castle and gained a dangerous check with your queen...the threat was completely harmless! I made up my lost castle with move 22... Ke7 and I gained the a2 pawn for free. Certainly value pawns! They might not seem like much, but as a general rule, it's best to do anything in your power to keep them.
Instead, I think you should have moved 15. Bh3. I would probably follow with 15...Ng5, leaving me in a rather dangerous position. This would free up both your bishop and your queen to make an attack, as opposed to your queen attacking alone. If anything, this variation would save your a2 pawn from being destroyed later on...
Also, I think 19. b3 would have been a much stronger move on your part. It blocks my white bishop, and it saves your a2 pawn. Instead, you push your pawn forward for relatively little reason...(I moved my bishop to b6, leaving your knight pinned).
Also, you could have prolonged the game a bit longer, had you moved 35. Rb2.
Elsewise, you played rather well. Good game!
Notice that by move 11 he dominates the center. You did well, but you just got outplayed. You seem to have stablized by the late teens, but by 26 his rook own the open file and his bishop pair is dynamite. Look at the position on move 30 and see the difference in your pieces. 35. Rb2 might help. Even then, 35. Rb2 Rxb2 36. Kf7 and you lose the knight.
hairypoet wrote: I'm not a master of openings, but it seems like while some dodgy stuff happened early, you still had some things going for you. On move 15 you lost your bishop to a pawn and let black get around their own peices. Since you likely want to learn I would say not to throw in the towel when the material is even-ish. Look deeper into clever moves and review every option if you have to.
truly insitive thanks
thanks hybridy you have already helped me raise the level of my game in our past games...i still remember when you beat me in the early teens of moves...i learned a lot of defense in that game for sure...and responding to this topic is going above and beyond the norm...i appreciate you taking the time and using your mind to help an up and coming chess player...only been playing frequently for the past year....knew how to play since i was 8...tested by psychologists and docters at age 10 and tested borderline genius iq level...iq= 133.....lol thanks everyone that's just a lil about me
Apr 9, 2008
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#17
4 nxe4?
That sends your knight back to its original place or opens up a wild goose chase. You picked option two; that lead to the development of a couple of his pawns
8. g3?
Pawn lost without a fight.
15 Bxe4?!
You gain material back but lose position. Especially with the side by side bishops
19.b6
I don't see the point, another pawn.
27. bax5?
I see the rook coming already.
28. Bb2
The e-pawn is MUCH more important that the c-pawn in this game. Leave the bishop where it is to prevent Rd2.