# Checkmate in 80

Escuse me??
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I just randomly made moves and i ended up make mate in 80 or something
I dont know how to post images so
The pieces are in this position:
White King on g8
White Queen on g7

Black Pawn on d5
Black King on d4

If you can't spot a simple 80 move checkmate, maybe chess isn't the game for you

That'll be a much faster mate than 80 moves.

(Looks it up.)  Yup, tablebase says mate in 19.

I have a photo of it

I saw it.  That must have been the engine's initial view -- it found a mate in 80 and hadn't yet found a quicker one.  If you'd let it run longer, that number would drop. But if you want to know the quickest possible mate, you need to check a tablebase.

Also, it's just not logical that it would take that eighty moves.  Even if you're playing rather crudely and lazily, you can win the pawn in only ten or fifteen moves (blockade it with the queen, then bring the king in).  Mate won't take more than another ten or fifteen beyond that.

What is a tablebase?

Short answer: chess is completely solved for positions involving seven or fewer pieces. All possible combinations of moves are mapped out and a database of these mappings -- a tablebase -- can tell you whether a given position of seven or fewer pieces is a draw or a win for one side, and how many moves it is to mate with optimal play from both sides.

Here's a link if you want to play with one: https://syzygy-tables.info/.

tlay80 if that was true the analysis was having a bad tine cause i kept redoing the moves hoping it would drop but it stays at 80 for 2 full minutes and no change

I have a confession to make: I read the tablebase too quickly.  It's DTM (depth to mate) 19, not mate in 19.  I believe DTM refers to move plies (one move by black or one move by white, not a pair of moves by white and black), so DTM 19 means mate in 10, not 19.  At any rate, definitely not 80.

What engine were you using?

It can also depend on the depth settings.  If they're low, then waiting longer won't change anything.

I'd switch to a different engine. Chess.com's stockfish interface comes up with mate in 10, which concurs with the tablebase.

Was using chess.com’s engine
One possible reason why its was mate in 80 cause the ‘best’ line for was all queen moves