queen to f3
Did I miss a Checkmate?
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It would be interesting to see some moves before this position. As far as I can tell, your best choice here was perpetual check. If you had tried anything but check rightaway, the king would've run away via h5.... and the only possible check is Qf3+ and pawn f3 (which only pushes him to safety). The second move has the same problem. the king looks trapped, but you need several tempi to get a rook to checkmate and by then your queen will surely be threatened and the game is lost.
Nope, Qf3+ fails to Kh3, which ends in a draw by perpetual.
ED.
Omicron wrote:
It would be interesting to see some moves before this position. As far as I can tell, your best choice here was perpetual check. If you had tried anything but check rightaway, the king would've run away via h5.... and the only possible check is Qf3+. The second move has the same problem. the king looks trapped, but you need several tempi to get a rook to checkmate and by then your queen will surely be threatened and the game is lost.
That was the problem I had. Nothing was quick enough, and his defensive resources, though far away, were decisive in preventing victory.
in this position:
f3+ Kxg3
Qh2#
am i right?
forget what i said , black can go Kh5 .... but i am almost sure that there is a mate.
dpakoh wrote:
in this position:
f3+ Kxg3
Qh2#
am i right?
I'm afraid not dpakoh. After f3+ the King can escape via h5.
dpakoh wrote:
i am almost sure that there is a mate.
Me to! It's been driving me mad!
why dont u check it with a chess engine, i am at work now so i cant do it.
dpakoh wrote:
why dont u check it with a chess engine, i am at work now so i cant do it.
I don't have one at the moment, I'm still deciding which to go for (after asking for advice in the forums, I'm going for chessmaster).
There is a checkmate. Qf3# Kh3 then play G4##
actually no sorry thats not
i am thinking of :
Qf3+ Kh3
Kf1 (with the idea white K to go to e2 and checkmate with Rh1)
but i am still pondering on black's reply
dpakoh wrote:
i am thinking of :
Qf3+ Kh3
Kf1 (with the idea white K to go to e2 and checkmate with Rh1)
but i am still pondering on black's reply
I looked at that, but I don't think there's time. Black could reply with Rf6.
Painfully close, but perpetual was the right decision.
still the best option is the draw.
It seems like it.
I'm thinking of
Qf3+ Kh3
Rd3! and now Black has virtually no moves. White can simply play Kh1, Rg1, Rg2 and Rh2#.
OR if he tries to exchange queens,
... Qf6
Qe2 (threating f3 and mate) Qg6 (preventing f3)
f4! and White wins. (the threat is g4+)
Edit: I looked at Rf6 and you will still get your mate. Black can only prolong it.)
Nov 18, 2008
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30. Qf3+ Kh3
31. Qh1+ Kg4
32. Qf3+ Kh3
33. ½ - ½ What about 33- g4+...? With a discovered check on Black
Well why sacrificed on faith without calculating ! If there is a mate it could be only sacrifising further after forcing king to h3. May be g or h pawn but rook is hanging too. Lines must be opened but opponent can use them as well so seems very risky.
This is an online game a played recently. It was a bit mad. I managed to sac all of my minor pieces (not quite deliberately!) and bring the black King to a position where I was sure I could checkmate him. However, after much studying, and going over the position on the analysis board again and again, I just could not see a checkmate. I knew I could save the game with a draw by perpetual, ie:
30. Qf3+ Kh3
31. Qh1+ Kg4
32. Qf3+ Kh3
33. ½ - ½
And so it ended. But I’ve had the nagging feeling ever since that I missed a win. Is there a checkmate here?
Apologies, the diagram should say 'White to move'.
ED.