and if u didnt notice "smart guy" that the continuation where i placed Qh1 was to prove that when the pawn takes the rook white still wins. but in what you showed this wasnt played. so stop yelling that a played a retarded move, because it seems that it is you retarded afterall if you dont want to analyze the situation given. instead you just spawn some crazy variation played with unknown idea by white. white would never play that game because they would see that it gives away their advantage. PS: i'm tired of arguing with because you're blind or dont want to see what you are told.
First of all, let's set something straight here: the move Qh1 came from _your_ post (namely post #39), go look it up, don't call me retarded, thanks.
Then again, I only used that move to make you realize you couldn't win this way, because the move Kxg3 would be stupid for black, since he could also walk away.
I have been following this topic for two days and I have found it so interesting. It's a very interesting position. It's also been painful to see how many people post careless lines without reading what other people have already contributed. There's been some really good discussion here but apparently some people are ignoring it.
Anyway, Jelleg, I just wanted to clear up your question from post #39. 4...Kxg3 is the best move because if, instead, black plays 4...Kg5, then white wins immediately with 5. Qh4#. Take a look at it on the board. In this line (still talking about post #39 here), 3. Qh1 is not a blunder because The black rook is still on h6. That's the key. If instead of 2...dxe3, black plays anything that moves the rook away from h6, white can play 3. h6 and has the win.
Take a look at the latest lines that macand and chessplayerfor life have shown. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that both of these lines give the best moves for black and show why white is winning.
murderotica's line in post #27 also works but I think that later discussion showed that 3.h6 instead of 3.rd3 is still winning. It would be great if somebody could post some of the fritz lines that we've heard about but haven't seen.
You have to understand, when someone posts good analysis it assumes that both players are playing the best moves possible. If you disagree or don't understand, you have to post the alternate move, the move you don't understand or show why the move in question doesn't work. It is difficult on this site because so many people don't read all the posts and post redundant or simply bad analysis. If you want to understand or make interesting contributions you have to sift through it all.
Hope this helps. Thanks for an interesting game and for an interesting discussion.
. After 1.Qf3ch Kh3 2. h5 Rh8 3.Rd3 Bd7 4.h6 the threat is 5.Qh5 Qh4 6.Qxh4mate, so if 4...Rxp isn't forced what are you going to play? 4...Be8?
Nope. I thought someone would say "No" or "Yes", publish one proof and that would be the end of it. This has all been hugely entertaining.
It's all good my friend, it's all good. Still, I need an answer to my origional question:
Again: 1.Qf3+ Kh6 2.h5! Rd6! 3.h6!! Rxh6 4.Qh1+ Kg4 5.Qxh6 dxe3 6.Kg2! exf2 7.Rf1 f1=Q+ 8.Rxf1
7.Rh1