Engine says mate is a blunder?

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So I was playing out a game against the computer, using the practice mode, after my opponent resigned and this came up.  Im black, and made the last move, but the engine says it was a blunder. How is mate a blunder?

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Mate isn't a blunder.

Why do you ask silly questions like this?

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Weird, but well played in your Scandi game

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There has been a bug so it's being checked 👍

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PerpetuallyPinned wrote:

Mate isn't a blunder.

Why do you ask silly questions like this?

if there was an option to downvote posts then you would be downvoted to death.

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SameerAchhab1 wrote:

if there was an option to downvote posts then you would be downvoted to death.

I answered a question and asked a question. I thought it was helpful and silly at the same time.

What have you done lately?

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ruteckyb wrote:

So I was playing out a game against the computer, using the practice mode, after my opponent resigned and this came up.  Im black, and made the last move, but the engine says it was a blunder. How is mate a blunder?

Not surprising tbh. I just made a post about how the engine said moves in the endgame were mistakes when they were perfectly just as good as what the engine said the best move was.

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PerpetuallyPinned hat geschrieben:

Mate isn't a blunder.

Why do you ask silly questions like this?

First of all: I also found this message very bad and offending. Second: It is a new, but known "Problem": https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/great-analysis-by-chess-com-engine

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/checkmate-blunder-1

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/checkmate-results-in-a-blunder

it´s a bug!

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Sometimes the engine makes weird decisions regarding blunders and mistakes.
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BananenBalin hat geschrieben:
Sometimes the engine makes weird decisions regarding blunders and mistakes.

Yes? I always found, that if the engine says "blunder" within a game (and gives the explanation via the play line) I could follow along. Here, there is no continuation and it´s clear to everybody that a move that leads to checkmate can´t be a blunder. Can you give us some examples of other weird decisions of the engine?

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Engine evaluation here is inaccurate quite often and have seen it in mine and others games but wow have never seen calling mate a blunder. Only thing I can think of according to the engines programing Qg7 mate was the most correct move, not my reasoning mate is mate and they need to fix this stuff.

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Same here.

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does it only happens when one playes against bots?

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archaja wrote:
PerpetuallyPinned hat geschrieben:

Mate isn't a blunder.

Why do you ask silly questions like this?

First of all: I also found this message very bad and offending. Second: It is a new, but known "Problem": https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/great-analysis-by-chess-com-engine

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/checkmate-blunder-1

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/checkmate-results-in-a-blunder

it´s a bug!

Why are you offended?

You knew mate wasn't a blunder, but asked the question anyway. You said it was clear post #10

And my message was "very bad"?

The game is over, how is this a problem for you?

You'll find more serious issues than this to talk about when dealing with post game move categories like mistake/best/and blunder.

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Given the incredible complexity of chess, it's amazing that these AIs work as well as they do.  A few bugs are bound to crop up.  It will only get better with time.

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PerpetuallyPinned wrote:
archaja wrote:
PerpetuallyPinned hat geschrieben:

Mate isn't a blunder.

Why do you ask silly questions like this?

First of all: I also found this message very bad and offending. Second: It is a new, but known "Problem": https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/great-analysis-by-chess-com-engine

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/checkmate-blunder-1

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/checkmate-results-in-a-blunder

it´s a bug!

Why are you offended?

You knew mate wasn't a blunder, but asked the question anyway. You said it was clear post #10

And my message was "very bad"?

The game is over, how is this a problem for you?

You'll find more serious issues than this to talk about when dealing with post game move categories like mistake/best/and blunder.

1) Chessplayers like to review pretty much anything about their games after they are over, so some would see an attempt to stifle post mortems as a bit intolerant.

2) The statement was more a question as to why the computer analysis would be so off, with the implied (and serious) follow-up being just how trustworthy the site's other engine analysis can be.

 

Personally I feel that anything that has people doubting the validity of the site's analysis is just further cause for not taking a high analysis level and posting it as proving (absotively and posilutely - deliberate word merging) that somebody violated fair play rules.

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Its mate.  Who cares what its labeled.

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They say when you find a good move, look for a better one. In this case you had a better move. At least according to the computer. 

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@perpetuallyPinned "Why do you ask silly questions like this?" is not "just asking a question" for me.

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archaja wrote:

@perpetuallyPinned "Why do you ask silly questions like this?" is not "just asking a question" for me.

Well, no offense was intended. I didn't consider it very serious, since you already knew the answer. But obviously you are serious about it.

I'll kindly not say another word.