Freeware against commercial chess software: Arena 3.5.1 vs Chessbase Fritz 17 - Chess Forums - Page 2

CM jjlai1111

Feb 12, 2021

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#21

did you purchase FF 2.0?

Alemor64

Feb 12, 2021

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#22

jjlai1111 ha scritto:

did you purchase FF 2.0?

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Wow! My friend at the chess club has just bought Fat Fritz 2.0 and we can test it!!!

Soon I'll publish updated Super-blitz 32 results (and Semi-Blitz if it will be in TOP 12)

Since I don't have a Pc it would be too slow in emulation. But at the chess club maybe I'll find someone interested and then I will update the tournaments using his computer. In the meanwhile, they have reported that Fat Fritz 1.2 is out from Top 32: Andscacs 0.95 is stronger than LC0 (on blitz time) . Customers aren't happy of Chessbase cloning Stockfish instead of writing a new and original engine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C-E1BqzLcs&feature=youtu.be Read all the funny comments...

Alemor64

Feb 13, 2021

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#23

jjlai1111 ha scritto:

did you purchase FF 2.0?

I have just updated the SuperBlitz 33 table. Fat Fritz 2.0 is strong, but not the n°1

Alemor64

Feb 14, 2021

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#24

jjlai1111 The doubt that I have since beginning is related to book openings influence on results. If I would use strongly tuned books like Goi or Fauzi, the engine could not show his real power. I don't like that it plays automatically 30 moves up to the engame. Is the very little Perfect 2021 a valid alternative? Is HS-classic 10 moves 2.0 abk a better choice? I 'm seriously considering to disable the opening for all engines that not have their own opening library..

CM jjlai1111

Feb 14, 2021

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#25

I always test engine vs engine is book turned off, try that one!

Alemor64

Feb 14, 2021

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#26

OK . They play correct opening moves also with book turned off . I'll start with blitz.

CM jjlai1111

Feb 14, 2021

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#27

but I heard many people said the Stockfish development version are now better than Fat Fritz 2.0 about 15-20 elo.

Alemor64

Feb 15, 2021

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#28

jjlai1111 ha scritto:

but I heard many people said the Stockfish development version are now better than Fat Fritz 2.0 about 15-20 elo.

I confirm. Since it is based on the same code of Stockfish & derivates, without innovation, It cannot be 100 ELO stronger. And opponents are updated more often than Fat Fritz 2.0. I will update the PGN games of the Long Time Tournament after every game.

jjlai1111 I would really switch to Mac (preferably Apple Silicon M1 native). My Mac Mini M1 could be 10 times faster! I'm playing a 9 engines test match 1 minute / game Engines calculates 2 Millions nodes / second instead of 2Kn / second. If you find updated SugaR 1.40, Shashchess 15.1, or top engines like Cfish, LC0, AlphaSubZero, Igel 2.9.0 binaries FOR MAC, let me know!

CM jjlai1111

Feb 15, 2021

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#29

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Alemor64

Feb 15, 2021

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#30

jjlai1111 ha scritto:

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Also Alpha SubZero deserves attention on long time games. Watch the game against Fisherov 0.95... It is 4 times faster than LC0. I really hope to find it for Mac M1 native, it could be the absolute number 1!

CM jjlai1111

Feb 16, 2021

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#31

But Stockfish is still stronger

Alemor64

Feb 17, 2021

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#32

jjlai1111 ha scritto:

But Stockfish is still stronger

Yes. Have you read the comments of the Stockfish Team about Fat Fritz 2.0? Chessbase must release the source code, because it's an open source GPL 3.0 derivate (so it will be possible to compile it also for macOS, Linux and Android )

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/ll3gw9/stockfish_developers_statement_on_fat_fritz_2/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share .

Just updated Superblitz32 with Cfish 08022021 (Stockfish compiled in C and 30% faster) but KillFish 1.4 Hybrid is still number 1!

CM jjlai1111

Feb 17, 2021

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#33

I already saw that 3 days ago, when it released, after 2 hours I already saw it.

Alemor64

Feb 17, 2021

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#34

jjlai1111 ha scritto:

I already saw that 3 days ago, when it released, after 2 hours I already saw it.

Blitz 3 + 3 on Mac mini M1

I have completed the setup of BanksiaGUI for Mac (book openings + Tablebases up to 6-man ) with it I cannot have Fat Fritz 2.0 (but it will be possible if Chessbase will release the source, as GPL 3.0 imposes) but I have Stockfish 12 and SugaR NNUE 1.40a and they run 10-50 times faster! 2-4 Kn/s vs 4-10 Mn/s. Now I'm trying to find all other best engines from Long Times Tournament Top 10 on Windows. By the way, all previous tests on Windows are valid because they are ranked using the same (slower) hardware.

CM jjlai1111

Feb 18, 2021

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#35

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Alemor64

Feb 19, 2021

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#36

jjlai1111 ha scritto:

k

Just updated Super Blitz 32. You are right, Stockfish dev without openings library is better, but Fisherov 0.96 is even stronger. and KillFish 1.4 Hybrid is still number 1.

IM chenxiaoyuer

Feb 19, 2021

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#37

Now stockfish 13 https://stockfishchess.org/

CM jjlai1111

Feb 19, 2021

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#38

yep Stockfish 13 just released yesterday!!

CM jjlai1111

Feb 19, 2021

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#39

If you are using alpha subzero, why not use the latest one? (310.1)

Alemor64

Feb 20, 2021

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#40

jjlai1111 ha scritto:

If you are using alpha subzero, why not use the latest one? (310.1)

It is the last one 130.2 I don't know why someone call it differently

On top I have inserted Super Blitz Deep 24 Mac M1 crosstable (Stockfish 13 is first!)