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vineet199

Nov 9, 2021

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#21

Ziryab wrote:

nklristic wrote:

RAU4ever wrote:

Imagine being a beginner and coming to this thread to maybe learn something. Just to be made fun of for no reason whatsoever. Everyone starts with blundering all the pieces. Only after a lot of practice that gets better. Imagine how you'd feel if I started doing a thread bashing all the 1700s for their awful play, while you've spent so much time getting to that rating. And then knowing that a strong GM can do the same to me. Disgusting. This game is for everyone and this thread shows an absolute lack of respect to your fellow chess players.

If it was out of context then yes. But there is a certain beginner (possibly of the troll nature, or perhaps not) who says people rated around their level (200 - 400) are mainly alt accounts and a few more statements that irritated some people (because the individual proceeded to arguably being toxic) in the last few days. I somewhat believe this topic has something to do with that.

@Ziryab

When I was a kid, me and my brother did this pawn formation in a few games:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzEPmYDPnYA

Though we completed it with an agreement that we will not do the crushing queen moves.

That was a funny game and instructive.

I hope you took the permission of the players whom you making fun of.

Below 600 rated players are just casual players who play just for fun ,for time pass. I think you want to prove yourself that you are ahead of them

Well nobody gives a sh!t .

vineet199

Nov 9, 2021

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#22

RAU4ever wrote:

Imagine being a beginner and coming to this thread to maybe learn something. Just to be made fun of for no reason whatsoever. Everyone starts with blundering all the pieces. Only after a lot of practice that gets better. Imagine how you'd feel if I started doing a thread bashing all the 1700s for their awful play, while you've spent so much time getting to that rating. And then knowing that a strong GM can do the same to me. Disgusting. This game is for everyone and this thread shows an absolute lack of respect to your fellow chess players.

Correct

nklristic

Nov 9, 2021

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#23

Ziryab wrote:

nklristic wrote:

RAU4ever wrote:

Imagine being a beginner and coming to this thread to maybe learn something. Just to be made fun of for no reason whatsoever. Everyone starts with blundering all the pieces. Only after a lot of practice that gets better. Imagine how you'd feel if I started doing a thread bashing all the 1700s for their awful play, while you've spent so much time getting to that rating. And then knowing that a strong GM can do the same to me. Disgusting. This game is for everyone and this thread shows an absolute lack of respect to your fellow chess players.

If it was out of context then yes. But there is a certain beginner (possibly of the troll nature, or perhaps not) who says people rated around their level (200 - 400) are mainly alt accounts and a few more statements that irritated some people (because the individual proceeded to arguably being toxic) in the last few days. I somewhat believe this topic has something to do with that.

@Ziryab

When I was a kid, me and my brother did this pawn formation in a few games:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzEPmYDPnYA

Though we completed it with an agreement that we will not do the crushing queen moves.

That was a funny game and instructive.

Yeah, that pawn wall... brings back memories.

AlCzervik

Nov 13, 2021

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#24

RAU4ever wrote:

Imagine being a beginner and coming to this thread to maybe learn something. Just to be made fun of for no reason whatsoever. Everyone starts with blundering all the pieces. Only after a lot of practice that gets better. Imagine how you'd feel if I started doing a thread bashing all the 1700s for their awful play, while you've spent so much time getting to that rating. And then knowing that a strong GM can do the same to me. Disgusting. This game is for everyone and this thread shows an absolute lack of respect to your fellow chess players.

i will attempt to be measured.

this topic shows many examples of fails by beginners. that's the point. any beginner seeing the few posts here might recognize something if they want to become a good/great/master player.

on the point of 'bashing' 1700 players, i bet a topic where you point out their mistakes would be overrun with comment and pm's to you asking for more!

on the point of this game being for everyone, yes, that is true. and that is why the op teaches.

i think you might have a different understanding of chess-as a master-compared to those that teach.

Ziryab

Mar 16, 2023

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#25

Despite the naysayers who failed to read the first post, this thread may still have value. For instance, there are threads like https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/has-anyone-made-an-idiots-database (the title was changed because most of us are not allowed to use certain words). I took the time to look at some games between some young students who are beginners.

It is hard to generalize from such games, but the lack of basic board vision seems to be more evident for the loser of each game, while the winner showed more attention to elementary contacts.

The second game.

Perhaps it is worth telling these young players to spend some time solving checkmates in one, then two, then three. Ideally, the problems should come from real games, even the games of players like themselves.

Ziryab

Mar 16, 2023

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#26

I remember when I first returned to my local chess club in my 30s after a decade and a half away, a guy told me he had found a position that made his king perfectly safe. He showed me a kingside fianchetto. We played a game, he went into his set-up and I destroyed his queenside and then came after his king. He said something about maybe it doesn’t work as well against stronger players. I was maybe 1400 at the time. It was before I had an official rating.

Ziryab

Mar 16, 2023

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#27

AL0NSH0W wrote:

Ziryab wrote:

Did you learn chess from someone who hindered your progress by losing on purpose?

I've played a couple of times the 9 year old son of a friend and let him win both times. My reasoning was that if I crushed him (in one game he blundered his queen before move 10) he might get discouraged and give up chess. Do you think it's wrong to do that?

My view is that is does not help the developing player.