How do I analyze my games?

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stwils

Everything I read from books to posts here tell you to analyze your games. I would like to. But I don't quite know how. Everyone says that is the way to improve in chess. And God only knows I need to and want to. I have lost far more games on chess.com than I have won.

Sometimes when I lose I use the site's Analysis Program. But I can only do a few.

I keep reading that Fritz and Rybka and others are great at analyzing your games. But I am in the dark how to use these programs for games I have finished on the internet.

I have Chessmaster 11, Fritz 10, downloaded Arena with Rybka engine inside (which someone on this site thankfully told me how), and Shredder that I downloaded and paid about $30 for. You'd think with all of that I could analyze my games. But I have no idea how to do it.

How on earth would I get a game that I have played on chess.com to go inside one of these programs?

What do I need to do? And how do I do it ?

I read books, practice on the Tactics Trainer, but I really need to take a good look at what I am doing wrong (besides making careless blunders.)

Can anyone tell me how to do this? (I am not the best at computers, but I am willing to try.)

Thanks.

stwils

borked

Under the moves tab you have the option to export a PGN file, every of your programs should be able to open it. Good luck.

farbror

Yep, get the PGN file, copy it using ordinary windows commands and the paste it into your chess software. Do you use Skype? If so, I could talk you through it.

baughman

OK I am new to using Fritz and PGN files also, also I tend to blow at anything computer related.

  I have hit the download PGN file under my completed games here at chess.com.

It did nothing? How do I get that info over to Fritz?

farbror

Got Skype?

stwils

farbror,

What is Skype? Obviously I must not have it as I never heard of it before.

stwils

baughman

I have fritz 11. not sure if that is on it?

farbror

Skype is a software for fre pc-pc phone calls. ;aybe , say Windows Live Messanger offer the same service?

stwils

No, farbror, I don't have it.

stwils

farbror

so, have you managed to copy the PGN file?

 

if so, open Fritz and just paste the pgn file. Then you click on

 

Engine -> Infinite Analysis: Fritz10 

 

(I suppose the drill is similar in Fritz 11)

farbror

1. <Ctrl-A> for marking all text

2. <Ctrl-C> for copying all marked text

3. <Ctrl-V> for tasteing the copied text

 

Good Luck!

baughman

so I guess copy and paste all the moves.

Hiting download pgn does nothing. I was thinking of just pasting the moves into the engine if I could not get the pgn to work hehe

Scarblac

You seem to be confused. The books say that YOU should analyze your games in order to improve. Then you start asking about ways to have A COMPUTER analyze them. Are you trying to improve the computer's chess?

Analyze your games yourself, with board and pieces. Try to find the correct answers to questions like:

- What were the critical moments in the game?

- What was the right decision to make on those moments?

- The calculations I did during the game, were they actually correct?

- Did I miss any tactics?

- WHY did I make the mistakes I made (only thinking about one aspect of the position, not using enough time, using too much time earlier in the game so I didn't have enough left, not good enough at tactics, too lazy to compute everything) and WHAT WILL I DO NEXT TIME IN A SIMILAR SITUATION?

- Which area do I need more training in the most -- tactics? the endgame? the opening?

If you've found answers to those by yourself (a lot of hard work), THEN you can always check the lines you've found by a computer, just to check if there's still anything important left you didn't see.

Just letting a computer analyze your games leads to zero improvement. It's like driving a car to improve your long distance running.

stwils

Before I do anything, should I have Fritz in my CD Rom? I clicked on the moves Pgn (finished game Chess.com) one time and it said save to Shredder. Very confusing.

stwils

farbror

I guess that Shredder has appoited itself to default reader of PGN-files. It should be possible to open the file as a notepad file. Try saving the PGN-file to your desktop and open the file using notepad.

farbror

It is getting late over here and I have to read Bedtime Stories.

 

Over-and-out....

stwils

farbror,

Just wait a bit. I am lost.

stwils

baughman

I will analyze myself also. But it would be nice to get the games into my savefiles on fritz also. SO that it can tell me the better way to go about it also.

 

Copy and paste the moves failed. Not sure were to paste them at in fritz. I just spent the last 5 minutes putting a game I have on here in by hand in fritz, now I am not sure how to save lol. When i hit save it brings up a list of places to save it, and i am unable to put it anywere.

yes you can tell I am old and not that great with comps.

baughman

by the way, the fritz manual and the help fuction. Show nothing on how to get games from sites, or put games in to save. Unless I am blind.

LukeyJ

stwills, computer analysis should come after your own analysis.

Refer to Scarblac's post.

Basically, you need to realise where you went wrong...

Was it a blunder, was it a pawn weakness, did you leave your defenses stretched on attack? Have a look for his powerful attacks, and how they got there. Which moves did you do that facilitated or didn't prevent this. When you get to this point. You know your mistakes. Open your match on chess.com and go to the position. Familiarise yourself with the start of his attacks and how it could affect your position. Now look at all the alternatives.

Which moves could you make that could improve that position, or could cut off that threat. What could he do to force it? Come up with some ideas. Then, AND ONLY then look to computer analysis. Use it to inspire you, think how it could have resolved that weakness, is it better than yours? Hell, it could be better defensively, but you could come up with some counter play. Calculate yourself, push your brain. The best chess players can beat a computer, so why should you settle for that as the final answer?