Are "Brilliant moves" in computer analysis just any decent sacrifice now?

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Knights_of_Doom wrote:

I'm 1900 rapid and I've only gotten a couple of brilliants.  My friend is 1100 and he gets them all the time.

No doubt he also gets a lot more mistakes and blunders. wink 

Avatar of ChessProKing-TM

Ive gotten a few brilliant moves before.

Avatar of Xaeronoid

For your information, I have read about it and Brillianies(!!) which chess.com gives are the same with Good Moves(!) but brilliancies must be a sacrifice.

Good Moves(!): Only move that's winning or saving the loss. 

Brilliancies(!!): Only move + Sacrifice Move.

So yes, at beginner levels, it is more common but beginners usually play brilliant moves without understanding it.  They usually just take a piece (a lot of them don't even realize after their move their piece can be taken) and see the result. Better players calculate a lot before sacrifices and if they cannot calculate the sacrifice completely, they tend to not sacrifice the piece and play safer moves. So that explains why lower rated players have a lot of brilliancies in their games and advanced players have only a few. 

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I just received another one from a game I played. I don't really pay them any mind. 

 

A simple deflection tactic. I wouldn't call it brilliant at all.

Avatar of Duck

Yeah "brilliant moves" are categorized by a piece sac that wins or the only move 

Avatar of Knights_of_Doom
K_Brown wrote:

A simple deflection tactic. I wouldn't call it brilliant at all.

Actually I'm ok with that one being "brilliant".  Nice move!

The ones that bug me are the ones that are the only move, but that are obviously the only move.  Must still be difficult to program a computer to determine that something isn't obvious to a human.

Avatar of Kieran_Kea

They're very, very, rare. I've only gotten two.

Avatar of Knights_of_Doom
AaryaPatilGr5 wrote:

This is my friends best game with 6 brilliant moves.

https://www.chess.com/a/21wYp7BYAY6Qe

VERY cool game!  And at least a couple of those brilliants actually were!

Avatar of The_Chicken_Wing

i have gotten 2 brilliant move in an OTB game

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Xaeronoid wrote:

So yes, at beginner levels, it is more common but beginners usually play brilliant moves without understanding it.  They usually just take a piece (a lot of them don't even realize after their move their piece can be taken) and see the result. Better players calculate a lot before sacrifices and if they cannot calculate the sacrifice completely, they tend to not sacrifice the piece and play safer moves. So that explains why lower rated players have a lot of brilliancies in their games and advanced players have only a few. 

Excellent job of putting into words what I've been thinking.

Avatar of ChessProKing-TM
The Rook Move Was Apparently Brilliant

 

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The brilliant algorithm seems to really like deflection tactics...

Avatar of Chesserroo2

I made "brilliant" moves. Recapturing a queen was awarded brilliant, since it was 9 points higher than the next best move.

The computer does not know which moves are hard for us to find.

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Hola

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Chesserroo2 wrote:

I made "brilliant" moves. Recapturing a queen was awarded brilliant, since it was 9 points higher than the next best move.

The computer does not know which moves are hard for us to find.

I've had it tell me in the game review that moves were tricky and hard to find.....some moves that I made and some that I missed. 

Avatar of THE_SYRIAN_FALCON

Q×e6    brilliant move

Avatar of ngosman

I've gotten 83 in my 6500 games according to insights.

Avatar of Humancalc7

Brilliant moves are very rare. From what I've seen, most of them are from sacrificing important pieces in ways that will benefit you in the end.

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m_connors wrote:

The definition of Brilliant, I believe, is the best move hard to find. So, in my case, I think it was more luck than skill. Ok, all luck . . . 

A brilliant move is when you play the best move but it is not one of the best moves that stockfish suggests straight away.