It took me a minute to see the line after hxg3 ... had to pull up the analysis board. Not sure I would have seen that in an OTB situation. Good play at that point.
Though, I did it with 19. ... Rh1+. It's a little more forcing, and eliminates the spite checks. Also, after 21. ... Kf7 in your variation, White can still delay by one move, 22. Be8+, so 21. ... Kd8 would have made it mate in 1.
There are more ways to finish the game after hxg3. Perhaps Rh1+ was better. The thing was that it was forced.
You are right! Be8+ was check, there was another move to make.. Thanks for noticing!
I cannot believe White fell for that trap. 15. Re1 breaks Black's attack and wins with ease.
Well. The move he made was quite okay too.. But you must understand that he didn't see the trap coming. It's quite a decent trap I believe, since my opponent isn't a weak player at all...
And mainly people are focussed on own moves, and less in the opponent moves.. Who analyses 5 moves ahead for what your opponent might do? (except for GM's perhaps)
And he did noticed the line, but a fraction late. I think most people would fall for it..
Wesley, thank you for sending this link. I must admit my attention weakened after such a huge advantage (another thing I should work on), and I was completely surprised by the trap. Anyway, it's good to play you, Wesley! You could be very dangerous sometimes. Hope to play you again, when I'm less busy with my study.
Well. The move he made was quite okay too.. But you must understand that he didn't see the trap coming. It's quite a decent trap I believe, since my opponent isn't a weak player at all...
And mainly people are focussed on own moves, and less in the opponent moves.. Who analyses 5 moves ahead for what your opponent might do? (except for GM's perhaps)
And he did noticed the line, but a fraction late. I think most people would fall for it..
If you're intent upon improving, I don't think it's a good idea to think along these lines (of course, you were down in material in the position, so you had no real choice in the matter).
Why do you think it's not a good idea to think along this lines??
I must admit that I saw the trap by coincidence.. My plan was a kingside attack as some sort of last change (as you mentioned). Just before the h4 move I saw the trap and thought: why not?
I intend on improving indeed.
But: why is it not good to look at these lines? You mean they are above my level of play (which they normally are).. Or that it costs too much time to see them??
Well. The move he made was quite okay too.. But you must understand that he didn't see the trap coming. It's quite a decent trap I believe, since my opponent isn't a weak player at all...
And mainly people are focussed on own moves, and less in the opponent moves.. Who analyses 5 moves ahead for what your opponent might do? (except for GM's perhaps)
And he did noticed the line, but a fraction late. I think most people would fall for it..
If you're intent upon improving, I don't think it's a good idea to think along these lines (of course, you were down in material in the position, so you had no real choice in the matter).
Why do you think it's not a good idea to think along this lines??
I must admit that I saw the trap by coincidence.. My plan was a kingside attack as some sort of last change (as you mentioned). Just before the h4 move I saw the trap and thought: why not?
I intend on improving indeed.
But: why is it not good to look at these lines? You mean they are above my level of play (which they normally are).. Or that it costs too much time to see them??
I'm pretty sure he was referring to "And mainly people are focussed on own moves, and less in the opponent moves.. Who analyses 5 moves ahead for what your opponent might do? (except for GM's perhaps)." You should pretty much always play your best moves, instead of hoping that your opponent makes a mistake in a sequence that if backfired would cause you the game. In this example you would have most likely lost if you didn't take such risks, so I think what you did was okay. But for example say you were equal in material you shouldn't play moves with the mentality that people are only focused on their moves and tend to ignore your own threats.
Usually when you are up in material by at least a minor piece and your opponent doesn't have a huge positional advantage you tend to let your guard down.
And I think what Tonydal meant was that you shouldn't be only thinking about just mindlessly attacking the kingside or using traps that can be avoided with a little 'carefulness' to win chess games.
@thejackbauer & bhlank
I think I see your point! You mean opportunistic play is not good because your opponent could make the best move, leaving you in a bad position..?
I do not play with a mentality: 'I hope he doesn't see that move, than I win, (if not I lose equality). I used to do so, but as you become better, and playing better opponents, they DO make the right move! I see your point there. What I was noticing was that It could happen, someone does mind his own moves too much.. But I agree playing such a game (with traps and stuff) is not a good way to beat your opponent!
Unless, as you stated, you are in a losing position and taking risk is the only thing you can do. I could have played 'the best moves', but than I had lost, due to the giant lack of material. So in such a case, taking risks is a last escape!
my question is : how can someone that looses a rook from the first moves (in a OTB game where he has all the time in the world) analyse 7 moves ahead positions?
@ clocky
I will answer your very sceptical question!
First of all, I explained that I missed a simple move! therefore I lose the rook .. How could that be? Well: mistakes are human! I have seen a much better players than me make this kinds of mistakes (not often, of course, but losing a rook this easily, is something that rarely happen even to me). It happens!
Second, who says I analyse 7 moves ahead? I can't even do that in difficult positions, even if I wanted to! Further I analysed from the h4 move! That means 3 moves ahead. And to be honest, this was not a mate no one could ever see coming!
My battleplan was, as also explained, to create a desperate attack on the kingside, hoping for a miracle. Which there came because of a combination of innacurate play of my opponent, a position with changes for a trap and good play by my, seeing and setting up the trap.
Hope I answered your question!
In this game I blundered in the opening against a much better player. Still, I kept up fighting and won the game after a beautiful construction on the kingside!
Here is the game!
Opponent (1995) - 02Wesley (1576) 0-1