what is going on????
(btw, I put it under game analysis, but it's not a real game)
But somehow, Lichess understands what's going on:
I know this is a very dumb position to analyze, but let's analyze this anyways.
It's not chess. And you analyze it with a chess engine?
yes it is chess because NORMAL CHESS RULES APPLY
Normal chess rules don't use jelly babies.
Pretty sure stockfish is misevaluating the position because of those piece animations 😳
what is going on????
(btw, I put it under game analysis, but it's not a real game)
But somehow, Lichess understands what's going on:
I know this is a very dumb position to analyze, but let's analyze this anyways.
It's not chess. And you analyze it with a chess engine?
yes it is chess because NORMAL CHESS RULES APPLY
Normal chess rules don't use jelly babies.
bruh it's chesskid layout bro
(it's badd but that's why I use it)
ENGINE being dumb for 1 second lol
it's still saying that. Haven't closed it. Until now lol
chess.com is dumber than lichess!?!?
apparently... yes?
emotinal damage
chess.com is dumber than lichess!?!?
apparently... yes?
emotinal damage
Is there any proof that Stockfish says white is winning? Other than that the first guy said so?
Wait i mean this extremely closed position that engines cannot analyze
How can i forgot that one isolated g pawn
This position ok
Not the old one where i forgot the isolated g pawn
And engine cannot analyze this
Extremely closed position like this
That position is just wrong, right? Your line only works because black plays the dumb Bg4, blocking his own rook. Play some other bishop move (Be6 or Bf5), and later Rg8 cuts off the king, Rg2-Rxh2 wins easily.
Put the white king somewhere closer to h1, and it will be fine.
Wait i mean this extremely closed position that engines cannot analyze
How can i forgot that one isolated g pawn
This position ok
Not the old one where i forgot the isolated g pawn
And engine cannot analyze this
Second example most likely can't be analysed because this could never be legal in a real game. Try using fairy stockfish and see what happens.
Wait i mean this extremely closed position that engines cannot analyze
How can i forgot that one isolated g pawn
This position ok
Not the old one where i forgot the isolated g pawn
And engine cannot analyze this
Second example most likely can't be analysed because this could never be legal in a real game. Try using fairy stockfish and see what happens.
I don't think SF worries too much about the legality, but it does worry about storage.
I normally give it a 2GB hash size.
If I give it a starting position with an extra row of pawns each on the players' third ranks it crashes. If I give it 4GB hash it runs.
I didn't try OP's position, but it will probably run given large enough hash.
As for @Raphael's second example, SF can analyse it (with default 16MB hash), it just can't get the correct answer. That's quite normal.
Is there any proof that Stockfish says white is winning? Other than that the first guy said so?
uh... I left it running for at least 5 hours and it just moved from 58 to 61
Wait i mean this extremely closed position that engines cannot analyze
How can i forgot that one isolated g pawn
This position ok
Not the old one where i forgot the isolated g pawn
And engine cannot analyze this
nice positions
so chess.com stockfish sacrifises analyzing overcramped positions for analyzing deep analysis?
Wait i mean this extremely closed position that engines cannot analyze
How can i forgot that one isolated g pawn
This position ok
Not the old one where i forgot the isolated g pawn
And engine cannot analyze this
Second example most likely can't be analysed because this could never be legal in a real game. Try using fairy stockfish and see what happens.
I don't think SF worries too much about the legality, but it does worry about storage.
I normally give it a 2GB hash size.
If I give it a starting position with an extra row of pawns each on the players' third ranks it crashes. If I give it 4GB hash it runs.
I didn't try OP's position, but it will probably run given large enough hash.
As for @Raphael's second example, SF can analyse it (with default 16MB hash), it just can't get the correct answer. That's quite normal.
oh ok
Wait i mean this extremely closed position that engines cannot analyze
How can i forgot that one isolated g pawn
This position ok
Not the old one where i forgot the isolated g pawn
And engine cannot analyze this
Second example most likely can't be analysed because this could never be legal in a real game. Try using fairy stockfish and see what happens.
I don't think SF worries too much about the legality, but it does worry about storage.
I normally give it a 2GB hash size.
If I give it a starting position with an extra row of pawns each on the players' third ranks it crashes. If I give it 4GB hash it runs.
I didn't try OP's position, but it will probably run given large enough hash.
As for @Raphael's second example, SF can analyse it (with default 16MB hash), it just can't get the correct answer. That's quite normal.
oh ok
Sorry - misinformation.
Hash shortage doesn't apply if the position is already mate.
Wait i mean this extremely closed position that engines cannot analyze
How can i forgot that one isolated g pawn
This position ok
Not the old one where i forgot the isolated g pawn
And engine cannot analyze this
Second example most likely can't be analysed because this could never be legal in a real game. Try using fairy stockfish and see what happens.
I don't think SF worries too much about the legality, but it does worry about storage.
I normally give it a 2GB hash size.
If I give it a starting position with an extra row of pawns each on the players' third ranks it crashes. If I give it 4GB hash it runs.
I didn't try OP's position, but it will probably run given large enough hash.
As for @Raphael's second example, SF can analyse it (with default 16MB hash), it just can't get the correct answer. That's quite normal.
oh ok
Sorry - misinformation.
Hash shortage doesn't apply if the position is already mate.
wait how did you do that
Wait i mean this extremely closed position that engines cannot analyze
How can i forgot that one isolated g pawn
This position ok
Not the old one where i forgot the isolated g pawn
And engine cannot analyze this
Second example most likely can't be analysed because this could never be legal in a real game. Try using fairy stockfish and see what happens.
I don't think SF worries too much about the legality, but it does worry about storage.
I normally give it a 2GB hash size.
If I give it a starting position with an extra row of pawns each on the players' third ranks it crashes. If I give it 4GB hash it runs.
I didn't try OP's position, but it will probably run given large enough hash.
As for @Raphael's second example, SF can analyse it (with default 16MB hash), it just can't get the correct answer. That's quite normal.
oh ok
Sorry - misinformation.
Hash shortage doesn't apply if the position is already mate.
wait how did you do that
I ran SF15 from the Windows command prompt, then sent it UCI commands. Cuts out questions about what the GUI's doing.
The search from your position was successful with 16MB hash. Both chess.com and the site that dare not speak its name should receive the last three lines in the display, but what they do with it after that is nothing to do with SF.
Given that chess.com comes up with a cp evaluation, it most likely gave SF the wrong FEN or it never called SF and the number came from somewhere else. Interestingly if you try game review it does say 0-1, but it takes an awfully long time to complete for a game with 0 moves - I gave up.
just stack the rooks on the h file and black has to sac a bunch of maidens to live stop it dumb engine white is better skull emoji
agreed
the engine is very dumb at super cramped positions
Maybe stockfish can’t analyze because of those goofy ahh pieces
bruh